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'What is so hard in counting 50,000 people?’- Caller on national census

- said ‘something is wrong’ that the VI is unable to get a census done despite small population
A caller to the Hot Seat radio show on ZBVI 780 AM on November 9, 2022, is concerned that the VI is having challenges conducting a national census despite it's small population. Photo: VINO/File
Appearing before the Standing Finance Committee (SFC) late 2021, Director of the Central Statistics Office (DSCO) Mr Raymond Phillips had said a census is very expensive, requires many persons and consumes a vast amount of time to be completed. Photo: GIS/File
Appearing before the Standing Finance Committee (SFC) late 2021, Director of the Central Statistics Office (DSCO) Mr Raymond Phillips had said a census is very expensive, requires many persons and consumes a vast amount of time to be completed. Photo: GIS/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- “Look at we fighting to get a census. We barely got 50,000 people right now. What is so hard in counting 50, 000 people?”

This is according to a caller to the Hot Seat radio show on ZBVI 780 AM on November 9, 2022.

The Virgin Islands last had a national census in 2010, which indicated the islands had a population of 28,054, of whom 23,491 lived on Tortola.

Current estimates put the population well over 28,000.

A national census was slated for 2020 but was postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Additionally, there was no monies allocated in the 2022 budget for a national census.

Even Haiti can get a census- Caller

“Let’s look at Haiti. Haiti got 12 million people and imagine we got 50,000 and we can’t [get a census]. Don’t you think something is wrong?

“Something is wrong, ok, because look at Santo Domingo. They got 9 million plus and they could tell you that. And we barely got 50,000 people and we can’t go forward and get that count. Something is wrong, ok,” the caller stated.

Former Premier Hon Andrew A. Fahie (R1), in his Budget Address on November 19, 2019, had said a national census is a critical undertaking and that the VI must become a data-driven society and make plans and decisions based on solid information.

Census very expensive- Raymond Phillips

Appearing before the Standing Finance Committee (SFC) late 2021, Director of the Central Statistics Office (DSCO) Mr Raymond Phillips had said a census is very expensive, requires many persons and consumes a vast amount of time to be completed.

According to the 2022 SFC report, Phillips said the estimated cost for the enumeration of the Virgin Islands population is $30 per household. Currently, he noted, the territory has approximately 15,000 households which add up to roughly $450,000.

“The field exercise could run for six months, and the estimated cost does not include the cost associated with safety measures for a safe interview process. This does not include the cost of handheld devices that would be used to do the interviews. There are also other costs associated with coding and editing and other personnel who are involved in the internal processes,” Phillips told the SFC.

Phillips also told the SFC he hopes consideration is given to increase the budget from $30 per household. He said the current amount does not serve as an incentive for census interviewers; adding that this would increase the budget even more. He stated that censuses are very challenging frustrating and sometimes even dangerous.

The DCSO also stated that compensation should come in to encourage maximum efforts.

“Unfortunately, it appears that patriotism no longer serves as a good incentive,” Phillips reportedly reportedly told the SFC.

10 Responses to “'What is so hard in counting 50,000 people?’- Caller on national census”

  • Norris Turnbull (14/11/2022, 14:35) Like (23) Dislike (3) Reply
    a lot of MoFo's are overstaying
  • resident (14/11/2022, 14:42) Like (21) Dislike (1) Reply
    These heads of dept always have excuses for things not been done. What is his office doing all this while? Not saying he has to do the census. I know it takes a number of people. But at least get the ball rolling.
  • sorry (14/11/2022, 14:50) Like (18) Dislike (4) Reply
    Third world Countries don’t keep up with census. Come on y’all, y’all know this place is Third world or run on a Third world mentality.
  • Just saying (14/11/2022, 16:03) Like (19) Dislike (0) Reply
    It was not until 2016 that the 2010 census report came out. Basically, around a 1,000 working days to process about 25-35,000 forms, ie. 25 to 35 forms per day. About 2-3 forms processed per day for a staff of ten. Then a year to get the report out, which by then was well out of date.
  • Pls. Stop (14/11/2022, 16:17) Like (24) Dislike (0) Reply
    A census should be priority and isn't as difficult as he trying to make it sound. We have so many bright people looking for work. You put 4 people in each district divided in two member a team, who are putting itge time and effort, it can be done within a month....You have 36 people at $3,000 a month for one month that's $98.000. in just feild officers,..Data entry can be done in office on office hours...come on quit the excuses, make things happen. Work for your pay..
  • Mustang (14/11/2022, 16:33) Like (10) Dislike (1) Reply
    Census information serves a useful governing purpose in planning service delivery. But by time the 2020 information is release in addition to its unreliability and undercount, it will be useless so they may as well wait for the 2030 Census. Does these departments have annual performance goals and objectives, assuming they are getting adequate resources to do the job? And if so why are not their supervisors holding accountable? At the beginning of a performance appraisal period, both the supervisor and subordinate should develop and agree to performance plan. The supervisor should be monitoring the employee’s performance through the performance period, providing coaching and counseling and adjustments as needed. The employee is not the only person to blame but also the supervision. Is not civil service under the Governor’s purview? Did every thing under the Governor got outlooked and a pass on CoI? Hmmmm!!!
  • please allow me (14/11/2022, 17:52) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    to attempt to answer your Question , if they cannot see straight , how are they goNNa get that done ? But then again , the smooth talking * moonwalking ,( his holiness , ( cSc ) can close his eyes ???? and holler out at the lord to help out a brother with the answers ????
  • YO mommA (14/11/2022, 19:15) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Looks like you flexing of on me / anyway U got D meSSage
  • Lol Duck (15/11/2022, 00:09) Like (8) Dislike (0) Reply
    Well if census people can barely count to 100, how does the caller think that they will get to 50,000?
  • Just Wow! (15/11/2022, 10:24) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    So let me ask about CPI and inflation rates. Do we have current data for those? The answer is a big fat no! This department is defunct, out of touch with reality and out of date. Stop the excuses!


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