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VG woman forced to think about living in car due to high rent costs- Hon Wheatley

Minister for Health and Social Development Hon Vincent O. Wheatley (R9) has said something has to be done about the high cost of rent mainly due to the exorbitant cost of insurance on mortgages in the territory. Photo: YouTube
The cost of insurance for mortgages in the Virgin Islands skyrocketed after the destructive Hurricane Irma in 2017. Photo: VINO/file
The cost of insurance for mortgages in the Virgin Islands skyrocketed after the destructive Hurricane Irma in 2017. Photo: VINO/file
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI- Minister for Health and Social Development Hon Vincent O. Wheatley (R9) has said something has to be done about the high cost of rent mainly due to the exorbitant cost of insurance on mortgages in the territory.

The Minister said some persons are being moved to the point of desperation, including contemplating living in their cars.

Hon Wheatley was giving his contribution to the debate on the Insurance Amendment Bill 2024, at the Continuation of the Nineteenth Sitting of the First Session of the Fifth House of Assembly (HoA) on September 4, 2024.

He said it was only on Monday that someone on Virgin Gorda told him she would be the first on Virgin Gorda to live in her car.

“She said to me, ‘I heard on Tortola they live in cars. I will be the first on Virgin Gorda to live in my car. I can’t afford this anymore.’” Hon Wheatley stated.

Hon Wheatley explained that the cost of insurance on mortgages went up after Hurricane Irma and that apartment owners have been burdened since.

$4k to $14k insurance increase after Irma

He said he knows of one person whose insurance on a mortgage went from 4 or 5 thousand dollars to 14 thousand dollars and added that while some landlords have actually tried to absorb the expenses, some were forced to pass on the increase to their tenants.

He said the situation is driving people quickly into desperation.

“She told me she would live in her car” and that she has no choice, Hon Wheatley said.

“I don’t know what can be done but it is not something that we cannot ignore much longer, Madam Speaker, or we are going to find more and more people being forced out of apartments,” Hon Wheatley stated.

56 Responses to “VG woman forced to think about living in car due to high rent costs- Hon Wheatley”

  • smh (05/09/2024, 11:01) Like (59) Dislike (14) Reply
    When the people start abandoning those high rent apartments, let's see how the landlords make out. Furthermore, the people should start erecting camps on public grounds, then you will see how fast government and the opposition will intervene.
    • Madussa (05/09/2024, 13:58) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
      Sorry to hear this. If only you and your family live in your house, you don't have to have insurance, but if something happens, you pay for damages yourself. If you have tenants you must have insurance. Take the rent money and pay the insurance then you keep whatever is left from the rent money for a rainy day. Some landlords collect rent and ignore their bills, trying to show off buying things they do not need and not saving. If you are a tenant and the rent is too high, you might have to share with a roommate and compromise to make ends meet. Living in your car should be your last resort.
    • Blind Man (05/09/2024, 16:26) Like (25) Dislike (0) Reply
      @Smh you really think landlords want to charge high rent I speaking as one before irma I paid 3200.00 for insurance after irma with no claim jump to 6000.00 find I didn't increase my rent 2018 it went to 10000.00 and I was now force to increase my rent by a 100.00 for two bedroom apartment and 50.00 for a one bedroom just to assist with the increase . Insurance is a killer and if it wasnt for earth quakes and must by the banks I would do without it and every 5 year they want appraisal just to increase again and if you dont they say you under insured.
    • Sails Sandy (05/09/2024, 21:13) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
      If only there was someone in senior government that owned a grocery chain and gave a damn about lowering food costs, that’s where the high high cost of living stems from
  • Since he so loves his people (05/09/2024, 11:06) Like (16) Dislike (31) Reply
    Why won't he take her in?
    • Greg (05/09/2024, 14:06) Like (34) Dislike (1) Reply
      @ Since hslhp, That is dumb. A solution must be acted upon to rectify these problems. For you to think anyone will bring people's problems into their own home will then make problems for them too. Would you bring strangers into your home? NO YOU WOULDN'T!
    • jk (05/09/2024, 15:58) Like (2) Dislike (7) Reply
      He is the Minister for Health and Social Development, why he is talking?
    • WOW (06/09/2024, 09:46) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
      You a real sk*nt
  • smh (05/09/2024, 11:33) Like (15) Dislike (0) Reply
    Inflation is real and every single commodity will be affected. Let's find workable solutions and stop posting crap!
  • question (05/09/2024, 11:33) Like (23) Dislike (0) Reply
    So I see house rent being advertised for 4k to 5k and sometimes more, lots of us take home under 2k per month so tell me how are people affording those 4k and 5k house rent?
    • Bree (05/09/2024, 16:55) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
      @Question:

      Here is the answer. The expat managers and some executives of trust companies and other in the legal and financial sectors even some medical professionals.
      • @Question (05/09/2024, 19:16) Like (8) Dislike (4) Reply
        @bree
        Those people ought to make big money then, well the government ought to make sure locals get those positions, not fair a foreigner comes here and make them kinda money and locals suffering
  • Voter6 (05/09/2024, 11:52) Like (39) Dislike (11) Reply
    SOME OF THEM NEED SLEEP ON THE ROAD UNDER A TENT BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS THEY LEAVE THE LAST APARTMENT A PIG STY IS CLEANER.I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING I HAD TO PAY OVER SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPAIR MINE. LANDLORD ALSO GOES THROUGH MANY PROBLEMS WITH SOME TENENTS

    • Deh Watcha (06/09/2024, 09:39) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
      Not withstanding what the tenant might have caused as far as damages, but to have $16k in repairs to one apartment sounds like that apartment was neglected of "landlord maintenance" also.

      Just collecting and not visiting or checking.
      • Voter6 (06/09/2024, 13:49) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
        NO THEY WAS THE FIRST TO RENT THE APARTMENT IF IT WAS YOURS YOU WOULD HAVE CRY.
        • Deh Watcha (07/09/2024, 21:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
          So they were the 1st and up to that point only tenant that racked up $16k in repair damages?

          Like I said before it seems that apartment was neglected of "landlord maintenance". $16k in damages doesn't happen overnight. An involved landlord would not end up in this. You were quite happy collecting rent and not maintaining the said property.
  • Native Senior Citizen of the British Virgin Islands (05/09/2024, 11:57) Like (16) Dislike (13) Reply
    Hon. Vincent Wheatley (R9), you were voted in power by voters living in Virgin Gorda. How then should you have said about that desparated woman's financial situation: "I don't know what can be done.".... It is your job genuine responsibility to know and to do, Minister.
    If it is true what I read you said, then you are not a true competent government Minister, but like a wolf in sheep's clothing (fake Minister) collecting and spending our tax money unworthily, like many other political Leaders and many, especially high salary earners do unjustly and some low earners do, too, at the people's experience, daily.

    Let God be true, and every man a liar.

    God is Love and Love is God.
  • resident (05/09/2024, 12:06) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    There seems to be a misunderstanding on the part of the minister. The bank or individual who holds the mortgage requires insurance. Otherwise, in the event of an insurable event (fire, hurricane, earthquake) the bank could be left holding a property worth less than the remaining balance on the mortgage.

    It is not insurance on the mortgage, it's the same insurance a property owner without a mortgage takes out to protect themselves against risk. Our one-bedroom property is insured for $225k, and the premium is about $4500/year.

    So an apartment owner who has paid off his mortgage still has significant expenses, including taxes and maintenance, before he makes a cent on his investment.

    Simply put, this is the cost of living in a hurricane and earthquake zone. The government hadn't insured most of their own property when Irma hit, probably because of cost, and those costs have risen. Are government properties all insured now? That would be a good question to ask in the HOA.
    • What then ? (05/09/2024, 16:44) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      Thanks for the clarification so I respectfully ask what do you think is the root cause of high rents and what is a solution to help the working class?
  • o (05/09/2024, 12:21) Like (5) Dislike (18) Reply
    He a sick man and to come the news talking like he is a person from the street before he just write a check and help the lady and he is VIP leader to me u are making your team look bad
  • culture saves us (05/09/2024, 12:26) Like (2) Dislike (2) Reply
    If there werent so many youth & elderly living together the rent would be even higher and more crime would happen from desperate people forced onto the street like in America. We have no sort of planning, everyone comes here and drives the prices beyond the reasonable rate for a local.

    Some places in the world have the opposite problem, too many people left and prices are rock bottom.
  • joke (05/09/2024, 12:40) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    If you all think this is a joke you lie. Hardship all around
  • facts (05/09/2024, 13:05) Like (4) Dislike (1) Reply
    On Virgin Gorda one of the problems with rent is the BIG FOUR has caused the rent prices to escalate. LITTLE DIX, NECKER ISLAND, MOSQUITO ISLAND, OIL NUT BAY. They grab everything and pay top dollar even if some of them remain empty for their workers and management
    • facts (06/09/2024, 11:05) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
      True! Branson don't want workers living on his islands, yet Mosquito Island houses being built that require 30 staff for each house. These are mostly English non-belongers. Then they give them $1,500 a month housing allowance. And guess what!? All the rentals now cost $1,500 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment.
      If you just trying to work construction, or house cleaning, you are locked out of the market.
      If these billionaires build these projects that require this much staff, they need to start providing housing. The rest of us are paying for it!!
  • Note to BVI (05/09/2024, 13:31) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    St Barts...,.ZERO crime ZERO Poverty
    Monaco....,ZERO crime ZERO Poverty
    Invest Yes
    Infest NO
    Drain the Swamp!
  • dude (05/09/2024, 13:46) Like (11) Dislike (6) Reply
    BOL....Dude you are the MINISTER FOR SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT. The bucks stops with you! Stop acting like this has nothing to do with you. Get the woman a monthly social grant, assuming she qualifies, to help the lady with her living expenses. You sound SO strupidy. There are people on VG already living without bathroom facilities etc. If you look hard enough you might find some already living in derelict vehicles. Lord help us. Oh...I forget what the former legislator used to say: "There are NO poor people in the BVI." Strupes.
  • RedStorm (05/09/2024, 14:02) Like (5) Dislike (2) Reply
    I can make a suggestion what you can do .I hope you have one of those advisors sit with them and come up with some policies or regulations about accommodations. 1. Advocate for insurance not to raise prices more that 2.2% per year. 2. Check with the laws to evaluate if there is any rules that can compare to other Caribbean countries.3.Get your team to start mapping a three page document about the United nation Developmental Goals for the Caribbean.4. Invite the insurance company to dialogue about how all can win when they decrease this large increase towards such small population.

    Minister don’t stand their and say you don’t know what to do. At least act as though you know why you are there, they people elected you to advocate on their behalf, so do something.
    • resident (05/09/2024, 18:30) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
      @RedStorm Do you own property in the BVI? Have you done any work on it lately? Building costs are extremely high due to the cost of imported materials and labor. Why does that matter? That and the climate risks factor into insurance rates.

      No insurance company will agree to limit to a 2.2% increase when costs are rising more than that. The size of the population doesn't matter. Let's say there is a 10% chance of an insurable event, it doesn't matter if the population is 10,000 or 10 million. It's actuarial science.

      What would reduce insurance costs? More stringent building codes, but that would likely increase building costs. Bottom line: there is no magic bullet.
      • RedStorm (08/09/2024, 01:17) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @ resident
        I cannot imagine the rules for building a house now. I got mine at age 22, and the other at 35 there is only two houses in my yard. None of which require a bank loan, piece by piece I build. Most materials are natural slate and coral tiles, all the wood was imported,doors,cabinets were done locally. Irma, just blue out two windows,a little water in the kitchen and one of bathrooms,everything was intact. Insurance companies is a thing of the pass at my houses,so forgive me if I don’t know who hurting.
  • SCB (05/09/2024, 14:09) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Is it really “insurance on mortgage” or is it simply “home owners insurance” that the bank requires the borrower to have in order to qualify for the mortgage?
  • tola (05/09/2024, 14:58) Like (3) Dislike (2) Reply
    Living BVI is costly them apartment crazy and them landlord don't fix nothing but every year them going up on rent. Not only she living in them car that premier ain't seeing the issue in the country that's why I can't stand him and kye don't concern about the people in the bvi.
  • tola (05/09/2024, 15:12) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Some of them apartment 4000 for match box just something else.
  • Colorado (05/09/2024, 15:30) Like (7) Dislike (2) Reply
    Its become more expensive here and other parts of the states to rent, than even the VI. Amazing.
    They're playing poker with senior housing and 'affordable' housing over here. Its Chinatown, Jake.
    • This copied from below (07/09/2024, 16:24) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Yet every night and every weekends the bars clubs and pier park full . If this country was bad off plenty of ppl won’t be out here throwing away money on alcohol and Drugs. That’s all this has turn to….. ppl will spend there money on lavish lifestyle and not think or plan for the future.
  • cc (05/09/2024, 16:14) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    I don't say house rent is not high but on the contrary it have people prefer to keep up with the Jones than pay their rent u live in some one place ù have rent
  • better yet (05/09/2024, 16:28) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Take her up joe's Hill manor to live
  • JP Morgan (05/09/2024, 16:51) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    This is a matter of simple economics, supply and demand. On VG there is a very limited amount of rental properties so when there’s a line of people wanting to rent your property you can charge what you want. Unless you’ve been a landlord you don’t know the headaches involved with a rental property so it’s in their best interest to charge the going rate, even if you think it’s outrageous. People don’t own and operate rental property to be nice to you they rent it to make money pure and simple. The only way to cure this problem is to increase the amount of rentals. As we know the government is incapable of being in the housing business, Joes Hill project example, what should happen is that they should give incentives to potential property owners to build more rental properties, simple except for here, there is no we in BVI!
  • cc (05/09/2024, 17:47) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    I don't say house rent is not high but on the contrary it have people who want to keep up with the Jones than pay their rent u live in so one house pay
  • Just saying (05/09/2024, 17:53) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    My class mate at the age of 49 live in his car right here in Tortola not even his car a rented car when. Walwyn talk about it happening some say he lie it’s ridiculous with house rent I don’t know who to blame!
  • Stealth (05/09/2024, 18:53) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Is the high rent supply-demand issue? Does the demand exceeding supply? If so the suppliers are in the drivers seat . On the other hand, if supply excess demand, renters may have some leverage. Are landlords exploiting the homes, apartments shortages? Is rent more than many renters can afford?

    Insurance whether property, auto, health, casualty, etc. is a shared risk. The larger the pool sharing the risk the lower each member in the pool will have to pay, spreading the cost.,Nonetheless, in a small locale as the VI with a small population the cost share will be higher. In regards to property, the landlord cost or a portion of the cost is included as part of the rent cost. Should the full 1/12 of the insurance cost be included in the monthly rent of a tenant? For landlords renting multiple units, the montly 1/12 insurance cost should be distributed among the units.

    Ok. The VI is a small locale with a small population, high insurance, shortage of rental units. What can be done to easy to ease the burden on poor, lower middle class renters.. I’m going to go a little rogue with a little non-revolutionary socialism. Socialism is not some new to the VI. I propose developing and employing a Universal Basic Income ( UBI) to cover, ie, housing, food, health, etc.
    • Disinterested (06/09/2024, 09:07) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
      @Stealth, indeed insurance is a shared risk, transferring the risk from one/person to another. The larger the pool over which to spread the cost the cost per person is lower. Inarguably, a pool with hundred of thousands or even millions the individual premium will be lower than in a pool with 30000 people. The law of large numbers can pinpoint how close the number of claims which will be filed each year. This data is useful in setting rates. Due to the small population, small number of companies offering insurance in the NVI, the cost of insurance will be high. Nevertheless, the FSC must be vigilant, monitoring and taking action on unreasonable insurance rates, nickle and diming junk fees, etc. Why can’t insurance companies institute processes so that policy holders can pay either quarterly, monthly, etc, instead of the burdensome and inconveniencing lump sum payment?

      This brings us to pricing methods in the BVI. Pricing is not based on any structured methods. Seems merchants stick their fingers in the air and determine a price. Merchants seem to want to recoup an expense right away instead of spreading out the cost. For example, if a case of beer goes up $0.25, the merchants tend to increase the price of one beer by $0.25. Ridiculous and greedy. Yes,,everything has to imported, prices rise, profits must be made, etc, but merchants can do more better. This is poor English but it reflects the greed.

      Bro, you gone socialist on us , sweetening it with the term non-revolutionary socialism. UBI, that is an ambitious policy shift for this government and HoA which cannot eben get the budget right, ie, $20M oversight. The opposition wants to blame government on the oversight but they have to shoulder some blame. Did they vote on the budget, did they challenge the numbers for each ministry, department, agency, etc. Ray Charles would have seen that the number for civil servants pay was too low..Did HoA asked for prior years numbers, recent PWC analysis, did the Deputy Governor present the budget proposal. Look, HoA members are not elected to dress and come to work to rest. The budget process is f….k up as Hogan’s goat; it is making Hogan’s goat look good. Common on man!!
      • @Disinterested (06/09/2024, 10:41) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @Disinterested, “ Look, HoA members are not elected to dress and come to work to rest.“ There have not been much to laugh about lately, but I got a good laugh today. Yes, the HoA is a dolly house. It should be a place of robust debate, but it is not,,for most of come unprepared to debate. Common folks research and come prepared to debate, especially the opposition., asking deep, probing questions.
  • Ex Plane (05/09/2024, 18:58) Like (3) Dislike (4) Reply
    Ghana has been welcoming Peoples of African descent to come and reside.They have and continue to offer incentives under various programs,including free land. There is a "Jamaica" iin Ghana made up of more than 20,000 Jamaicans.
    I would recommend looking into tis program and possibly others even if you could afford the rent in Tortola.
    The BVI ,as tiny as it is,cannot survive withe the amount of the foreign poverty it has visited upon itself. There will be no gratitude expressed by these imported with nothing to give in return. Their DNA as a group is Mucked up.Nothjng good can come of it. Drain the swamp!
  • shoo (05/09/2024, 19:08) Like (5) Dislike (5) Reply
    Her priorities are skewed. She has a car bu no place to live. Betcshe Aldo supports the Asian economy by purchasing and sporting their hair,real and,or synthetic their fake fingernails and their fase eyelashes.
    I have an apartment I cannot afford a car. An aparment is my priority as is that of sensible adults. People with her mentality deserves the bed they make for themselves. Not worth even thinking about.
  • Evacuate (05/09/2024, 21:13) Like (7) Dislike (0) Reply
    Don't hang your hat higher than you can reach.
    Why reside in a place you cannot afford....makes no sense.
    There are many islands in the Caribbean where cost of living is lowwww..
    Most of the humans in these BVI and VI,call those places home.
    Return home,please,I beg,simple straight forward remedy.
  • Wellsah (05/09/2024, 22:21) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
    How entitled, locals get priced out of neighborhoods, cities, etc all the time. The gov needs to build some multi story housing projects / communities but most would rather live in their car than be associated with government provided affordable housing projects .
  • send help (05/09/2024, 22:41) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    Deal with the banks to killing us with interest rates
  • Insurances (05/09/2024, 22:55) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    All of you in government allowing these insurance companies to continue to rip off customers daily. They under write for other companies yes but they want to get rich quick. Some are doing unethical practices to customers.
    Please be advised all customers who have standing orders where by they have your credit card or bank information keep your eyes on your accounts.
    They give you a quote and you agree to that quote next thing they go ahead and increase the price on you after a couple of months and don't tell you. Thief thief unethical practice they need to be brought before the FSC. I am serious. Next homeowners insurance they some don't want you to pay in monthly. This one insurance for sure want a large sum then the balance in 3 months payments stating its the companies they under write for. Pure lies money hungry. They think you pick up money on a tree everyday. People pay attention this one only wants cash. If you pay with card she wants 3% Added to payment to process payment. They are the only ones ripping off customers. It matters not what a customer pays with once you get your money. No where else charges extra but that specific insurance company needs going before FSC to much unethical stuff with that company. Banks are going to be in trouble with people keeping their houses insured they way these insurances are rippping off customers. You have to take a seperate loan every year to get insurance paid.

    The rich will get richer the poor will get poorer. Many properties will be put on the market just because of insurances. Thats the trick they want their rich friends to benefit and they get a cut under the table. Or they themselves will buy your homes pure wickedness. The stage is set keep wake people

    Wicked and trickie insurance
  • flUffy (05/09/2024, 23:03) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Mr.Minister,Do you think she is the first?? THERE ARE EVEN SOME WITH CHILD/CHILDREN LIVING IN CARS. EVEN YOUR FELLOW VIRGIN GORDIAN LIVING IN THE RENTAL CAR!!!
  • hmm (06/09/2024, 07:58) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    A lot of locals have their own family home to stay in, not all but a lot. But because BVI have so much expatriate the housing accomodations is a bit on the shortage so I think that's why the ll is asking so much for rent. If you were here for years then those older ll are very lenient and some today might a still be paying $800. For a nice 2 bedroom house. But you see them new ll is like them want to make back that money in 6 months lol
  • Part of the issue (06/09/2024, 08:19) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    How many residences in VG are still mashed up from Irma & Maria 7 years ago now?
    It’s easy to say control the insurance companies but they can pack up and go elsewhere. Fair to say they took a bit hit in 2017. Some also took a bit hit after Marylin and revised their policies to say no coverage for named storms for a long time. Now, there is a risk that insurance companies may pull out of the Caribbean entirely, just as some have pulled out of the Florida market.
    IMHO the issue boils down to lack of long term urban planning. Populations grow and so do housing needs. We don’t want to learn vocational skills so we import something like 40% of labor from elsewhere. They too need housing. Leaving it to the private sector to address a public need clearly does not work. In the end, this sad story is a lamentable manifestation of poor planning and poor governance. Crocodile tears for Mr. Wheatley.
  • strupz (06/09/2024, 12:36) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    Yet every night and every weekends the bars clubs and pier park full . If this country was bad off plenty of ppl won’t be out here throwing away money on alcohol and Drugs. That’s all this has turn to….. ppl will spend there money on lavish lifestyle and not think or plan for the future.
  • Norris Turnbull (07/09/2024, 07:40) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Vincent too lie.
  • Things 2 Talk (07/09/2024, 18:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Virgin Gordians are too bad minded and wicked a lot more if them are going to suffer. She can't afford it, but they could afford to pay for expensive funerals at the tabloid funeral home.


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