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Surveillance Bill passed; Hon. Fraser raises objection

- Speaker says objection came too late
July 9th, 2013 | Tags:
Third District Representative Hon. Julian Fraser, RA stated,“On this particular Bill, I disassociate myself with it and that’s the way it is.” Photo: VINO/File
Speaker of the House, Hon. Ingrid Moses-Scatliffe in response to Hon Fraser’s statement argued that there was ample time for an objection to be raised even before the Bill was taken for its third and final reading. Photo: VINO/File
Speaker of the House, Hon. Ingrid Moses-Scatliffe in response to Hon Fraser’s statement argued that there was ample time for an objection to be raised even before the Bill was taken for its third and final reading. Photo: VINO/File
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – The 'Authorisation of Surveillance Devices Act, 2013' was finally passed today, July 9, 2013 at the Ninth Sitting of the Second Session of the Second House of Assembly, but this was not without dramatic effect as Third District Representative Hon. Julian Fraser, RA sought to make his objections clear.

Shortly after the Members of the House had emerged from the Committee stage and a motion was moved and seconded allowing the Bill to be passed, Hon. Fraser rose to say that he wanted to place his objections to the Bill in its current state on record.

He said it was fine that Members of the House wanted to be sticklers for the rules on this particular Bill in reference to the majority having the final say but argued that he was not in favour with the Bill and hoped that he was counted as one of those who said ‘nay’ when the record was reflected.

“On this particular Bill, I disassociate myself with it and that’s the way it is,” he stated.

Speaker of the House, Hon. Ingrid Moses-Scatliffe in response to Hon Fraser’s statement argued that there was ample time for an objection to be raised even before the Bill was taken for its third and final reading, the point at which Hon. Fraser rose to give his objection.

The Speaker stated that according to the Standing Orders, it is stated that “at the conclusion of a debate the question shall be put by the Speaker or Chairman and the votes may be taken by voices, ‘aye’ and ‘no’ and the results shall be declared by the Speaker or Chairman stating that I think the aye’s have it or the no’s have it, as the case may be, but any Member may challenge the opinion of the Chair by claiming a division.”

Hon. Scatliffe-Moses said, “…I made my declaration ‘the motion is passed as amended’. I called upon the Clerk to read the Bill a third time, at which point you interjected with your request for a division and I think based on what was read back and based on what the Standing Orders said and the history of this House, your indication of having a division came too late… it came after the Bill had been passed.”

The House has since been adjourned.

15 Responses to “Surveillance Bill passed; Hon. Fraser raises objection”

  • Y2K (09/07/2013, 18:13) Like (4) Dislike (23) Reply
    Foul, the man want a division to show clearly in the records of the house that he opposed the bill, give it to him. Chaw man.
  • vince (09/07/2013, 19:19) Like (3) Dislike (22) Reply
    Thanks for standing up for the people liberator
  • trrefdrfds (09/07/2013, 19:41) Like (2) Dislike (21) Reply
    Man...these fool that passed the bill..... they have no idea what they have arranged for the future of the public.
    • Come on (09/07/2013, 20:31) Like (6) Dislike (15) Reply
      These same fools probably just saved your life or your family
      • trrefdrfds (10/07/2013, 02:28) Like (1) Dislike (10) Reply
        You mean when they have to retrieve the soundless footage AFTER the crime has taken place? Cameras dont identify masked men or people who will just plot around them.........thats the problem with people these days...this whole "Cameras only affect those with something to hide" mentality is a bunch of BS. What happen to people that just SIMPLY enjoy their own privacy? Who enjoy quiet times alone without wondering if the eye in the sky is just staring at them? WTF is wrong with you people? Don't your minds expand further than the very rock you live on? Any man who sacrifices the smallest amount of Liberty for Security deserves NEITHER.... Do some research and UNDERSTAND that cameras do more harm than the purpose they were put there to serve.....Anyway.... it looks like the majority has a hard time seeing the OVERALL problem which is a broken community.....We keep trying to fix all these problems with cheap band aids that don't stick.....
  • egg face (09/07/2013, 20:25) Like (0) Dislike (13) Reply
    Anothet sad say for demoracy a step backwards with this bill
  • Fools (09/07/2013, 20:57) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Wasn't Fraser instrumental in getting the CCTV up and running while VIP was in? lmaao!
  • lol lolol (09/07/2013, 22:52) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    wounds like someone have something to hide
  • DEAD MAN WALKING (10/07/2013, 00:17) Like (1) Dislike (14) Reply
    A step backwards for the rights of the people…poor Ayo
  • Spy (10/07/2013, 00:24) Like (4) Dislike (9) Reply
    I spy with my little eye all the evil in the BVI. Surveilance will ony bother those with something to hide, For most it will be a pleasure to see men in high places have their day in court.
  • Concerned (10/07/2013, 01:40) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Too late, yes. Hon Fraser Sleeping. Motion passed. Hon wake up
    • Jack Rafter (10/07/2013, 11:39) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      Too late, Fraser wasn't a bit too late. It is just that no one in the House of Assembly wanted to see their name associated with a YES VOTE, so they gang up against Fraser to block the division he called for. But we now know that the Government voted to spy on its citizens.
  • cnn (10/07/2013, 05:44) Like (0) Dislike (19) Reply
    the bill is backwards ever forward never


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