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Paying tithes brings benefits like 'unlimited access to heaven' - Apostle Fahie
“The Government of the BVI… they are a Kingdom, they need finances so they take our taxes, we give Social Security, we give NHI, and because we give those things we get benefits… the same thing it is in God’s Kingdom.”
Apostle Fahie, a former Progressive Virgin Islands Movement (PVIM) 2019 candidate at the February 2019 elections, was at the time speaking on the February 19, 2020, premiere of Karia J. Christopher's 'Real Talk' television show, along with guest Pastor Calvin K. Mills.
Gaining access to heaven
According to the Apostle, when you give into God’s Kingdom, you get benefits similar to how you would get from paying taxes to government.
“Your tithe is your tax in the Kingdom of God that gives you benefits and access to heaven unlimited,” he said.
Recalling instances in the Bible where persons such as Abel paid tithes, he said they received blessings and in the instance of Abel, which resulted in the jealously of his brother Cain.
'Go ahead & be jealous' - Apostle Fahie
He encouraged persons to continue paying tithes to see blessing regardless of who gets jealous, “Go ahead and be jealous, I’m going to keep giving my tithe,” he said.
Apostle Fahie's comment came on the heels of another controversial comment from Pastor Mills, who remarked in the same episode of the show that if someone believes in God, they will give 10% tithes to the church.
Meanwhile, Real Talk will air on FLOW TV on Wednesdays at 8:00 pm and shortly after can be seen on the Facebook page, Real Talk with Karia Christopher.
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56 Responses to “Paying tithes brings benefits like 'unlimited access to heaven' - Apostle Fahie”
Ya'll just trying to make him look bad and start controversy!
I do, however, pay tithes because it is my way of saying that I acknowledge you Lord as my Provider and thank You for blessing me in the first place and I give back to You the first fruit of my income which You have first given to me or enabled me to obtain.
Genesis 14:20 says - 20 and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” 21. Then Abram gave one tenth of everything to Melchizedek. You will notice Abram got blessed first then he gave to Melchizedek.
It is not you give to get ; it is you give because you have been given.
Do I believe that one should pay tithes? Yes, I do believe that one should pay tithes for the reason stated above and I do not intend to sound facetious but I notice when I pay my tithes my money gets an unusual “elasticity”,(if I may say) that I am able to get more done with a small sums of money as opposed to when I do not pay and my salary literally vanishes with nothing to show for it.
You have got go be f**king kidding me.
matter of fact it would be better to pay the devil to get blessing them pay god as the devil seems to have a lot more success, but in hind sight these pasters look like they all are the devils bitter ex-wifes trying to what alimony they can.
some of you have put over 20k into pasters pockets and for over 20yrs have not seen one blessing that have you in a better position in life but yet you watch the paster buy big ride and build big house and you still trying hold up under 2 tooth picks. you is ah MS or what, but i digress, you fools going continue to do as your parents and gran parents have done that has keept your entire family n financial struggle for generations. so continue and make bad financial choices and see if God studying ayo with you Muckery.
You pastors are nothing more than ********. Always begging and conning the poor people out of ever little bit they have. I remember when I use to go to church with my grandmother and when the collection plate was passed around, you put what you could afford be it a penny or a dime. All you pastors do is suck off the poor and helpless people so you can drive around in expensive cars, live in big house, take vacations. The same poor people that is lining you pastors pockets you would not lift a finger to help when they are in need. BOY PLEASE!!!!!!
We know the truth is you will die and your body is committed to the earth in this life so logic should tell everyone that your soul just like it is committed to your mind will go somewhere else base on your belief. The fire in hell and the heaven in the sky is all fake.
Search for light and stop letting these pastors manipulate your minds. Also do not let these masons control your lifestyle. Those are the politicians who look out for their brotherhood.
I will be back with more to enlighten your mind with the truth.
2Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
Anybody else would be in PRISON. the sh*t this man says
This man is blatantly making promises of the blessings of God using methods that contradict the teachings of God.
Talk about a false prophet.
Only rich people go to heaven?
I live in heaven right here on earth. I make my own heaven. I go through some hell now and then right here on earth. It’s all a state of mind.
Your Bible aka Helios Biblios has been tainted by your oppressors kind sir.
Many think believers in Christ should tithe (defined as giving 10 percent of one’s income), and many use the language of “tithes and offerings” in worship services. Others are equally convinced tithing is not required for believers.
Which view is more faithful to God’s Word?
This certainly isn’t a matter over which believers should break fellowship. Love is far more important than our view on tithing (1 Cor. 13). Still, I would argue tithing isn’t required or even encouraged for believers in Jesus Christ. But such a stance needs to be explained.
Tithing in the Old Testament
What does the Old Testament say about tithing? Abraham gave a tenth of his spoils of war to Melchizedek (Gen. 14:20), and Hebrews appeals to this account to support the superiority of Melchizedek’s priesthood over Levi’s (Heb. 7:4–10). God met Jacob at Bethel and promised him covenant blessings; the patriarch promised God a tenth of everything granted him (Gen. 28:22).
A tenth of Israel’s seed, fruit, and flocks were given to the Lord (Lev. 27:30–32; Deut. 14:22–24; cf. 2 Chron. 31:5–6; Neh. 13:5, 12). The people gave a tenth to the Levites to support them (Num. 18:21–24; cf. Neh. 10:38; 12:44), and the Levites, in turn, were to give a tenth to the chief priest (Num. 18:25–28). Those who didn’t tithe were threatened with a curse, while those who did tithe were promised blessing (Mal. 3:8–10).
Though we might assume Old Testament Israel gave a total of 10 percent, it’s actually difficult to discern how much was given. We can’t linger over details in this short article, but some think the Israelites gave 14 tithes over seven years; others believe they gave 12. Regardless, when we add the required tithes together, the amount certainly exceeded 10 percent. In fact, the number was probably somewhere around 20 percent per year.
Why Tithing Is Not Required Today
There are seven decisive reasons for saying Christians are not required to tithe.
1. Believers are no longer under the Mosaic covenant (Rom. 6:14–15; 7:5–6; Gal. 3:15–4:7; 2 Cor. 3:4–18).
The commands stipulated in the Mosaic covenant are no longer in force for believers. Some appeal to the division between the civil, ceremonial, and moral law to support tithing. Yet these divisions, I would observe, are not the basis Paul uses when addressing how the law applies to us today. And even if we use these distinctions, tithing is clearly not part of the moral law. It’s true the moral norms of the Old Testament are still in force today, and we discern them from the law of Christ in the New Testament, but tithing is not among these commands.
2. The examples of Abraham and Jacob are not normative patterns.
Some think tithing is required because both Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth, and they both lived before the Mosaic covenant was in place. Such examples hardly prove tithing is for all time, however. Abraham’s gift to Melchizedek was a one-time event; there is no evidence he regularly gave God a tenth.
Jacob’s giving of a tenth signified his gratefulness to God for promising to be with him and to protect him. His gratefulness and generosity still speak to us today, but a historical description of what Jacob gave doesn’t support the idea that all believers must give God a tenth of their income.
3. Tithes were given to the Levites and priests, but there are no Levites and priests in the new covenant.
Levites and priests were tied to the sacrificial system of the old covenant. Now all believers are priests (1 Pet. 2:9; Rev. 1:6; 5:10; 20:6), with Jesus as our Melchizedekian high priest (Heb. 7).
4. The tithe is tied to the land Israel received under the old covenant.
Israel was supposed to celebrate a tithe every three years in Jerusalem. But that requirement cannot apply to Christians today. It related to the Jews as a nation—to Jews who lived in the land of promise. With the coming of Christ, the Jewish nation is no longer the locus of God’s people, though individual Jews are part of the church through faith in Jesus.
The earthly Jerusalem is no longer central in God’s purposes (Gal. 4:25). Believers are part of the heavenly Jerusalem (Gal. 4:26) and look forward to the city to come (Heb. 11:10), to the new heavens and new earth (Rev. 21:1–22:5). Abraham isn’t heir of the land of Israel, but of the whole world (Rom. 4:13).
5. If tithing is required today, how much should we give?
As noted above, the number was certainly more than 10 percent and closer to 20 percent. Those who advocate tithing should probably settle on 20 percent.
6. When Jesus affirmed the tithe, it was before the dawn of the new covenant.
Some defend tithing by saying Jesus praised tithing, even if he said it was less important than other things (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42). This argument appears strong, but it’s not persuasive. Jesus also mentioned offering sacrifices in the temple (Matt. 5:23–24), but Christians don’t think—even if the temple were rebuilt—that we should do that. Our Lord’s words are understandable when we think about his location in redemptive history.
Jesus spoke about sacrifices and tithing before the cross and resurrection, before the dawn of the new covenant. He used tithing and sacrifices as illustrations when addressing his contemporaries. He kept the law since he was “born under the law” (Gal. 4:4). But we can no more take his words as a commendation for tithing today than we can his words about offering sacrifices.
7. Nowhere is tithing mentioned when commands to give generously are found in the New Testament.
When Christians are instructed to give to the poor, they aren’t commanded to give “the poor tithe.” Instead, they are instructed to be generous in helping those in need (Acts 2:43–47; 4:32–37; 11:27–30; Gal. 2:10; 1 Cor. 16:1–4; 2 Cor. 8:1–9:15). For example, 1 Corinthians 16:1–4—a passage often cited in popular circles in support—doesn’t mention tithing; it relates to a one-time gift for poor saints in Jerusalem.
Give Generously
Even though tithing isn’t required today, it does not follow that believers should hoard their possessions.
We are commanded to support those who preach the gospel (Matt. 10:10; Luke 10:7; 1 Cor. 9:6–14; 1 Tim. 5:17–18). And while we should enjoy the good things God gives us, we are also called to be generous to those in need (1 Tim. 6:17–19; 2 Cor. 8–9). Wealth can so easily become an idol, leading us to abandon the Lord.
Since God is to be our treasure, believers are to give generously and freely. For many in the West, this will mean giving more than 10 percent.
Still, Scripture doesn’t command Christians to give a tenth—and Scripture, not tradition, is our rule and authority.
These are descendants of the same people that taught our ancestors from a slave bible. They continue to justify the behavior of their ancestors. We must utterly reject ALL of their biblical doctrines and interpretations, my brother.
In the Church Age (now) we are encouraged to Give from the heart with no limitation:
2Cor 9:6 Consider this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not out of regret or compulsion. For “God loves a cheerful giver.”…
SO DON'T COME WITH THIS HORSE SHIT THAT PPL NEED TO GIVE 10% OF THEIR MONEY TO THE CHURCH. FOH!! This shit got me so mad I can't even articulate my damn thoughts properly. I hate this shit.