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‘I want to find the person who drafted the Police Bill!’- Hon Fraser

Senior Legislator in the Virgin Islands (VI) House of Assembly (HoA) Hon Julian Fraser RA (R3) says although he is a legislator and should be making laws, with regards to the controversial Police Bill 2023, he is looking for the person who drafted the bill. Photo: Facebook/JTV
Speaking during a Community meeting held at Valerie O. Thomas Community Centre in Sea Cows Bay on Thursday, February 16, 2023, Hon Fraser is highlighting several concerns with the proposed legislation indicated that he does not know who drafted the legislation. Photo: Facebook/File
Speaking during a Community meeting held at Valerie O. Thomas Community Centre in Sea Cows Bay on Thursday, February 16, 2023, Hon Fraser is highlighting several concerns with the proposed legislation indicated that he does not know who drafted the legislation. Photo: Facebook/File
SEA COWS BAY, Tortola, VI – Senior Legislator in the Virgin Islands (VI) House of Assembly (HoA), Hon Julian Fraser RA (R3) says although he is a legislator and should be making laws, with regards to the controversial Police Bill 2023, he is looking for the person who drafted the bill.

Speaking during a Community meeting held at Valerie O. Thomas Community Centre in Sea Cows Bay on Thursday, February 16, 2023, Hon Fraser is highlighting several concerns with the proposed legislation, indicated that he does not know who drafted the legislation. 

“The more I look at the bill, the more I want to find the person who draft the bill, because we can't find the people who draft the bill.”

He reminded that the people of the VI elected 13 legislators to make laws to govern the territory, however, legislators are reduced to just passing bills that are already drafted. 

Legislators don't draft laws - Hon Fraser  

“But what's funny about this whole thing is that the legislators don't draft the bills, and that's unfortunate. These things show up and we are expected to pass them,” he said.

He said however if the people of the VI don’t want legislators to pass a bill, they still have the power to say no to any proposed legislation.

During his presentation, Hon Fraser highlighted concerns regarding no-warrant access to the property, DNA sampling, giving the police powers to intercept communication between clients & lawyers, and the protection of the right to silence.

“I'm not blaming the police... I'm blaming the people who draft the law and try to give it to us the pass,” told the people at the community meetings regarding the proposed amendments in the bill. 

 

 

23 Responses to “‘I want to find the person who drafted the Police Bill!’- Hon Fraser”

  • good (18/02/2023, 17:44) Like (15) Dislike (5) Reply
    Yes Fraser, we need a COI on this. Who in the hell drafted the evil Police Bill! The AG and DPP need to talk.
  • Umm (18/02/2023, 18:28) Like (13) Dislike (14) Reply
    Barber shop first!
  • Josiahsbay (18/02/2023, 20:10) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    I found this citation in the Constitution but I'm not clear as to which member it is referring to. Is it the members of the HOA or of the Government or both? HELP!

    Introduction of Bills, etc
    78.—(1) Subject to this Constitution and the Standing Orders of the House of Assembly, any
    member may introduce any Bill or propose any motion for debate in, or may present any petition
    to, the House, and the same shall be debated and disposed of according to the Standing Orders of
    the House.
    • @JosiahsBay (19/02/2023, 08:57) Like (4) Dislike (2) Reply
      It would look to me that the member who would have brought the Bill forward would be the premier but that is only a guess. He had the most to say. Which other member could it be. So the premier turned around acting like he was unaware of the amendments he brought. Still leaves the question of who drafted the bill. Is that the AG's job? But still under whose instructions did the drafter act? Who is the Pharoah? Who is the one trying to take away the rights of the people of the Virgin Islands. Who is the fraud? Why are they not coming forward proudly if they were not up to no good? We need answers! This person committed a crime.
      • Josiahsbay (19/02/2023, 18:09) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        What I really want to know is can the Governor draft a bill at the behest of the UK. The idea of a bill being drafted without the knowledge of HOA members is ludicrous. Any member that doesn't know or tells us he can't know isn't worth their salt as a politician or member of the House or Government.
  • Tadow (18/02/2023, 20:42) Like (8) Dislike (11) Reply
    Hon Frazer, I don't agree with much of what you say but I am with you on this one. Who ever the hell he or she is we must weed them out. I will say this much we don't have to look to far. I believe strongly it is WHITE BOY HACHA.
  • Really (18/02/2023, 22:49) Like (7) Dislike (3) Reply
    All these dumb comments. He's reading the elites script and he knows he can never find out who the secret society is so don't listen to him it's an Act
  • Governor rank (19/02/2023, 01:05) Like (8) Dislike (8) Reply
    It came from the slave master’s office
  • Forbidden Truth (19/02/2023, 05:13) Like (9) Dislike (1) Reply
    “The more I look at the bill, the more I want to find the person who draft the bill, because we can't find the people who draft the bill.”

    The Virgin Islands need to get up and stand up against this Bill or shut and suffer the consequences in 2023. It really does not matter who the hell wrote it. You cannot blindness blindness fool fool pass legislation you all in the HoA didn't write. But then again John Bull could pass laws from yore.
  • All a we!! (19/02/2023, 07:26) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    Me tooo I want to know the A** that draft that book of nonsense….All them want to do is violate the community instead of doing real police work!!!!
  • crazy (19/02/2023, 07:37) Like (3) Dislike (0) Reply
    Such a bill must have gone through the AG office who should have flagged these concerns. Of course legislators do not have the skills or ability to draft such technical legal bills. Your job is to debate, amemd and refine these laws when they ate presented to ypu. Get to work.
    • Josiahsbay (19/02/2023, 20:50) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
      They just simply have to describe the intent of the bill and include any checks or balance they wish to include and have it drafted by qualified lawyers so in essence they can draft a bill or have it drafted.
  • dna (19/02/2023, 07:41) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    Sampling needed to catch criminals duhhhh!!
  • bumblebee (19/02/2023, 08:44) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    The legislators can draft bills and often do, they can also sponsor bills, I don't know the author of this one but don't believe all of the noise that you hear.
  • Yo Tambien (19/02/2023, 08:59) Like (3) Dislike (8) Reply
    Me too I want to find the person(s) who drafted the police Bill to thank them.They know who they are dealing with and what it takes. I wish to look out on the horizon and see a barricade of British and American warships with machine guns pointed and surrounding v this polluted godforsaken human trash heap in n the near future.
  • mad max (19/02/2023, 10:41) Like (0) Dislike (4) Reply
    Legislators complain that they don’t have time and need additional staff. Now he wants to draft a legal document? He does not have the ability or knowledge to do so.
  • barber (19/02/2023, 10:54) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    Check in with Slowande he know. All ayo soft. Aint nothing going change to better our community and youths. Julian you had time and money to put move. You aint doing nothing even when you find sho draft the bill.
  • lodger (19/02/2023, 11:05) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    I want the drafters of all bills put before the house to be named. It is obvious that our legislators dont have the wherewithall to do it themselves. They often dont see them until the morning of the sitting.
  • @ Umm (19/02/2023, 11:35) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply

    So his hair style is more important than this bill which is of national concern. This is the @£$ thinking that has us where we are today. Keep it up.

  • Undercover Observer (19/02/2023, 14:06) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    We have have falsely believe that the colonialism pathogen was buried and dead. Well, colonialism for Blacks in colonies is a long running play, a tragedy. The BVI people are experiencing the resurgence of the after life of colonialism pathogen. It is back with a vex vengeance. Virgin Islanders with a total focus on materialism went in hibernation, let their guards, trusted the colonialists and facing a nightmare that they thought vanished with the battles fought by Dolph Faulkner, Hope Stevens, Noel Lloyd and others. Virgin Islanders need to quickly wake from their slumber and fight to protect their human rights, freedoms and liberties, avoiding the BVI being thrusted into a police state. Does not the BVI people worthy of the privileges enjoy in the U.K. and crown dependencies? Yes. The difference is that they are considered White countries like the US is considered a White( 1790 first nationalization law). The colonialists conquered, colonized, exploited and left and now they are back with the same exclusion, special entitlements, privileges, not giving a damn what locals, especially blacks( they feel blacks have no rights that they should honor), don’t give a rat’s ass game plan. It is de javu all over again. And this time we steppin and fetchin to get in line.
  • GTFOH (19/02/2023, 17:23) Like (9) Dislike (0) Reply
    The Police are human too. They aren't perfect. Recently way too many local police have been charged with crimes. Rumors of local police on the payroll of criminals. Globally, many police have been convicted of murder, rape, violate their oaths everyday and somebody think it's smart to give the police unlimited access to our homes without reason or warrant. This cannot be allowed to pass. Most of the police that come to the BVI are here for a salary not for the love of their job or justice. This is a terrible idea. The Premier and other government officials were accused of being corrupt and the COI are forcing us to make changes to prevent such abuse. The same logic should be followed to prevent police from abusing their power. We don't need to wait for the police to start invading anybody's house based on their personal feelings, rumors, jealousy, envy and other human emotions or even to further their criminal behavior to put an end to this so please just stop it before it starts.
  • We all need to know (20/02/2023, 17:33) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Who are the culprits who drafted this bill, trying to put us back in the dark ages with no human rights. Obviously it is not a Virgin Islander. But a foreigner who wants to take over this place and abuse the natives. Please leave our lands sooner rather than later or we will March, March and March and fight for our rights as we have done in the past. Governor and Commissioner of Police please leave now!!!!!!!


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