Heated debate over vaccination; Hon Skelton says do it!
One man, who lives on the Eastern side of Tortola, said “I have never had any of my children vaccinated because of my Rastafarian religion…the items in the vaccination will in fact make my children sick in the long term…”
He said none of his three children are vaccinated and “the government cannot impose that on us,” he added.
Do it - Hon Skelton
However, the Minister for Health and Social Development Honourable Ronnie W. Skelton (AL), in a press release issued on April 23, 2018 by the Government Information Service (GIS), said “timely vaccinations are the safest and most effective way to protect families and the community from a long list of potentially life-threatening illnesses.”
The Minister’s statement was also in support of the 16th annual Vaccination Week, according to government spokeswoman Natasha Lettsome and was also “calling on parents and guardians to ensure that their children have up-to date vaccinations.”
‘It’s against my religion’
Many of the new generation of parents from Tortola, the sister islands and a few from other Caribbean islands, even some outside of the Rastafarian religion, claim that today’s vaccines are not healthy for their children and prefer to use local herbs and bushes to keep their children’s immune system up, according to one father.
But Minister Skelton disagrees and promotes vaccination the traditional way. He told GIS his government will “continue investing in strong immunisation programmes.”
In supporting vaccinations, the former Finance Minister [2003-2007] said “It is also an opportunity to share information and educate the community on the importance of vaccination and its impact on the continued fight against dangerous diseases like measles, polio, and tetanus among others,” he added.
VI has no statistics
Another mother, who is from St Vincent and the Grenadines, said she grew up on ‘bush medicine’ and had no issues. She added that while her two sons are not vaccinated she uses a lot of natural bushes and stated, “my boys' immune systems are strong as they are never sick.” When told that it’s the law of the land and part of the Education Act, the mother living on Virgin Gorda said she is home schooling her children.
The Government’s Central Statistics Department or the Department of Education could not provide stats on the number of parents that are home schooling their children and number of parents refusing to have their children immunised for religious or other reasons.
The 16th annual Vaccination Week is being observed from April 21 to 28, 2018 in the region of the Americas under the theme “Strengthen your Defense’. Vaccination Week in the Americas is an annual public health campaign by member states of the Pan American Health Organisation (PAHO) to promote equity and access to immunisations. It is observed every year during the last week of April, according to Ms Lettsome.
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38 Responses to “Heated debate over vaccination; Hon Skelton says do it!”
Not too long ago, a European woman's experience of her sons autistic phenomena was detailed quite explicitly on the front page of the Daily News.
You see, her son was given vaccines here at a local clinic and he developed autism. Because she had deep pockets, she took her son to America to specialists to see what had happened.
These specialists did extensive neurological tests and concluded that the autism was caused by vaccinations that caused areas of his brain to blacken which resulted in extensive irreversible brain damage.
The take away from this is not to tell anyone what to do, but to encourage parents to space out each vaccination shot -perhaps three weeks apart for each shot, thereby rendering one the ability to monitor adverse effects
Good luck!
All my children have been vaccinated and they turned out fine. Humanly speaking they are not perfect (as no one is) but they show no sign of autism.
It is not my place to judge anyone who refuses to have their children vaccinated but what interest me is this claim that vaccines causes autism. Where is the proof?
Personally I believe that any parent who do not want to immunize their child should home school that child. Government should not allow any child who is not immunize into our public school system.
The Earth is flat!
The moon is made of cheese!
The Donald is right sometimes, this is completely Fake News.
This Vaccine has been causing all sort of complain for years and its designed by the pharmaceutical company to make money and control population life expectancy... Fact!!!
Vaccines do not cause Autism
Anyone against vaccination should go research the polio virus and the iron lung. There are still people living in them because of a disease they got as toddlers. They are having a difficult time becaue the iron lung is so ancient and rare that few people alive can repair them and none of the parts for the machine are produced, they have to be special ordered. On top of that, modern ventilators have a tendency not to work for these people because modern ventilators use positive pressure )air is forced into the lungs) where as the iron lung uses negative pressure (pressure is put on the diaphragm which forces the body to inhale, which happens naturally in healthy individuals). If you are unfortunate enough to catch polio, if you’re lucky you end up crippled and sterile at best. The worst is death. This disease still ravages a lot of poorer counties. Said disease is now 100% preventable if you can get the vaccine.
There needs to be a limit to the ignorance. Vaccinations do not cause autism. The scientist who did said research not only lied about his results but he conducted his research in an inefficient and non-scientific way. The rise in autism diagnosis have been attributed to many things including a high exposure to toxins during pregnancy and most importantly the fact that the spectrum has been redesigned to include a wider variety of symptoms. There are several types of autism. The disorder presents itself different in the sexes depending on which side of the spectrum a child is on. For example, boys are more likely to be autistic than girls and girls with autism are more likely to present with Asperger’s Syndrome than any other form of autism.
Please people go do your research!
As a tropical country we can’t afford to play with vaccines. The tropical climate is ideal if for a lot of bacteria and viruses because the environment is constant and close to our body temperature. There are a lot of dangerous microbes that we share our lives with and the only reason they don’t take over and kill is all is that we know how to take care of ourselves but these microbes can adjust quickly and they’re opportunistic, if we slack it’d only take one person to cause a catastrophe. Please read about how the Black Plague got started and What human practices caused it to spread. Please also research Typhoid Mary.
Why vaccinate yourselves and your children?
1. It can aid in causing a disease to go extinct. Have you noticed no one gets small pox anymore? That’s because once a vaccination was created, it was mass marketed and enough people because vaccinated so that the disease is no longer a threat. Except for a few labs around the world, small pox basically doesn’t exist anymore. Before then, the disease contributed as a factor that lead to mass genocides or population reductions around the world as European travelers exposed native populations to the previously unknown disease.
2. It protects the vulnerable. When you vaccinate yourself you don’t just protect you but also other people in the population. There are people in the population that might not be able to be vaccinated or have compromised immune systems such as newborn babies, the elderly, people on chemo, people with immune deficiency disorders and people with HIV. By being vaccinated, you reduce your chances of being a carrier or disease thus reducing the chances of these people being exposed to disease that might be harmless to you but deadly to them.
3. You decrease the amount of pain and suffering in the world. Some disease are extremely devastating. They not only cause pain and suffering during the illness but providing the person survives, they can face life long difficulties that not just impact their own lives but the lives of everyone around them, especially their caretakers and families. Some diseases cause sterility, mental disabilities, physical disabilities or further medical complications. Some of these complications after illness may cause lifelong scars and depression and other mental problems, multiple surgeries, multiple hospital visits or require a person to need some level of caretaking for the rest of their life.
4. It saves money. Vaccinations are cheaper than having to pay for a hospital stay or a wheelchair. It’s cheaper than the days pay a parent would lose by having to stay home with their sick child. It’s cheaper than paying for a funeral that didn’t need to happen. It’s cheaper than the tax increases the population of would have to shoulder to continuously pay for as more and more sick people use NHI. Seriously, if too many people get sick, forget about fixing schools and roads, forget scholarships and parades, we’ll all be lucky to eat a good meal after all the taxes.
Tell me, does it make sense to risk any of this when there’s an alternative and easier option?
I’m usually tolerant of other people’s beliefs but this shouldn’t be tolerated. The risk is too great and it’s a selfish thing to put on the population the burden of the consequences from not vaccinating. Do you think it’s fair for a parent to send their perfectly healthy child to school one day only for that child to return with a fever that later develops into a disease that either kills or maims them? Do you think it’s fair for your selfish desires to cause another parent sleepless nights and hospital visits? If you want your child to go to school with othe or people’s children you should vaccinate. If you want to work and interact with the public, you should be vaccinated. No if, ands or buts about it.
The government shouldn’t even be playing with this decision. Look at what this same foolish mentality is doing to California now. We literally can’t afford the ramifications that comes along with this level of ignorance.
Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital Case
In 1963, at the Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital in Brooklyn, New York (JCDH), twenty-two patients who were chronically ill, debilitated and cancer-free, were injected with live human cancer cells. The medical researchers involved did not inform the patients that they were being injected with live cancer cells- which were an unrelated procedure from their regular therapeutic program. Nor were the patients told that they were being used in an experiment, funded in part by the U.S. Public Health Service [PHS], to measure the rate of the body’s ability or inability to reject foreign cells in chronically ill non-cancer patients (Katz, 1972).
The medical researchers, who were studying the immunology of cancer at the time, had also injected the same type of cells into hundreds of cancer patients in earlier experiments, again, without informed consent. They discovered that the trials on cancer patients generated “nodules” that grew for several weeks and then regressed. In contrast, however, similar injections in healthy volunteers showed much more rapid rejection. Their findings suggested that patients with cancer lacked immunity to their disease, so to fully determine whether their results were solely attributed to their patients’ debilitated state or not, they sought out chronically ill patients who did not have cancer to conduct their experiment (Langer, 1964).
By 1964, the experiments set off a firestorm of public controversy when a few young physicians at the hospital refused to participate and even resigned in order to protest the ethical impropriety of the patients in the experiments. In the court of public debate, the hospital's staff was being compared to Nazi physicians who had performed brutal experiments in concentration camps in the 1940s (Langer, 1964). The case eventually ended up in State court, resulting in the two principal researchers, who spearheaded the experiments, being found guilty of fraud/deceit and unprofessional conduct. Consequently, however, they were only given one year probation by the New York State medical licensing board.
Nevertheless, their paper of the JCDH experiments was published in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences in 1964 without any mention of the lack of informed consent. At any rate, the findings conclusively confirmed that the rejection of the cancer cells was as rapid in the chronically ill patients as in healthy subjects. Ironically, three years later, one of the principals was elected president of the American Association for Cancer Research, which, in my opinion, speaks volumes to how those in the medical industry at the time viewed themselves versus the rest of humanity (thus another example of the “God Complex” at work in the industry).
Now the question at this time can be asked, “Should we continue to use human subjects in experimental medicine to find cures in the light of my research?” My answer is- Yes. Advancements in medicine and surgeries that have greatly extended our average lifespan and kept us healthy over the years have come about because of human experiments. However, they must be done in accordance with all the ethical standards and full-disclosure-informed-consent procedures established as a consequence of the dark-side of unethical human experiments.
Sadly, it is also important to acknowledge that there will always be the dark-side in our medical industry due to its profiteering/capitalistic and opportunistic aspect that can encourage conflict of interest for some stakeholders, as well as for others who may have started out with good intentions. Optimistically, however, as a benefit of our western democratic system, the dark-side of the industry can be checked and limited by those who may oppose the existing status quo, as history has so methodically exposed and documented.
References
Katz, J. (1972). Experimentation with Human Beings. New York, NY: Russell Sage Foundation.
Langer E. (964). Human experimentation: cancer studies at Sloan-Kettering stir public debate on medical ethics. Science, v143:551-553
To be continued. This debate has just began.
Take the transgender issue for example. A perverted psychologist out to make a name for himself so he invented the term gender as it relates to sociology. Then he capitalized on a medical mistake and exploited and sexually abused two young boys to the point that one of the boys grew up and committed suicide because of what was done to him as a child. Despite that, David Reimer’s legacy still lives on. No one talks about his lies or wickedness and now thousands of people around the world are in denial of their being and suffering because of it.
If you want to talk about the history of medicine then you’ll have to start further back than the 20th century. Though most strides were made then, the concept of vaccination, which is what we’re talking about, existed at least two and a half centuries before now.
Despite that your post was interesting. I’ll like to read the book if I get my hands on it. I personally am not against human experimentation once it’s voluntary. It’s actually becoming more common to try out a drug on a person first rather than animals since there are some diseases that happen in people that can’t be replicated in animals or even under lab conditions.
If those doctors did what they did them in modern times they would actually be charged with assault in the very least and attempted murder assuming no one died because of their actions. What they did is a clear violation of the Hippocratic Oath.
Be gone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct5-5PKYxyg
I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.
My concern has been the decision to omit relevant findings in a particular study for a particular sub group for a particular vaccine. There have always been recognized risks for vaccination and I believe itis the responsibility of the CDC to properly convey the risks associated with receipt of those vaccines.
Dr. William Thompson - whistleblower
Conclusion. Accept nothing that these politicians put-forth without research. Allow the public to decide what is best for their family. Inform without dictating and allow the public to recieve altenative facts. However, at present the facts are against conventional midicine.
I am well over fifty.. don't take any meds.
I don't even get cold..
And guess what i happen to find my clinic card... I only get 2 vaccines. So If I lived all this time with out them. I think i will be fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebfeumBDymc
Natural medicine i'm sure.
I thought BVI. Was a step above a third world country, but obviously some of the population are not, even though they can read and use a computer.
Newman, D. (2008). Hippocrates’ Shadow, We don’t know (pp. 3-17). New York, NY: Scribner.
The Trouble With Doctors Know Best. (2012). Retrieved from www.nytimes.com/science/does-doctor-know-best
You can't test for what you don't know exists.
CDC Admits as Many as 30 Million Americans Could be at Risk for Cancer Due to Polio Vaccine
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/it-only-took-50-years-cdc-admits-polio-vaccine-tainted-with-cancer-causing-virus/
We are injecting foreign tissue from monkeys, chicks, dog kidneys, cows and cell lines derived from aborted fetuses into our children, not to mention the metals and preservatives.
SV-40 is being found in childhood cancers but they claim it has been screened out and I believe it has...however, the insert of the vaccines clearly states that the vaccines have NOT been tested to see if they cause or contribute to cancer of if they change our DNA:
the manufacturer’s package insert states, “M-M-R II vaccine has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or potential to impair fertility.”
Please, check it for yourself: Top of page 6, second line, straight from the FDA and the manufacturer:
https://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/UCM123789.pdf
https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/measles/vrs/
Are we trading measles and mumps for cancer and diabetes and auto immune diseases?
Are vaccine manufacturers trustworthy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbnqO_vJVOk by a medical doctor on the history of the vaccine industry