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Fahie writes to court asking for it to determine whether jurors gave ‘their’ verdicts

Ex-Premier of the [British] Virgin Islands Andrew A. Fahie, through his lawyers, has written to the court requesting it to exercise its wide discretion to determine from two jurors whether the verdicts as published were their verdicts. Photo: GIS/File
Judge Kathleen M. Williams has called this scenario unprecedented and acknowledged her limited options and has since ordered both sides to file motions on the matter by this Thursday, February 15, 2024. Photo: flsd.uscourts.gov/File
Judge Kathleen M. Williams has called this scenario unprecedented and acknowledged her limited options and has since ordered both sides to file motions on the matter by this Thursday, February 15, 2024. Photo: flsd.uscourts.gov/File
MIAMI, Florida, VI- Ex-Premier of the [British] Virgin Islands Andrew A. Fahie, through his lawyers, has written to the court requesting it to exercise its wide discretion to determine from two jurors whether the verdicts as published were indeed their verdicts.

The letter to a Miami federal court was entered on February 13, 2024, and came after two jurors sought to recant their positions regarding the unanimous verdict against Mr Fahie, who was found guilty of drug and racketeering-related charges earlier this month.

Fahie was scheduled to be sentenced on April 29, 2024, after he was convicted on February 8 after a trial that lasted eight days, with the 12-member jury returning guilty verdicts of conspiracy to import a controlled substance, conspiracy to engage in money laundering, attempted money laundering, and interstate and foreign travel in aid of racketeering.

But in an unusual situation, two of the jurors have contacted the judge to say they did not actually agree with the guilty verdicts, presenting a rare predicament on whether or not a jury’s verdict stands if members later recant their on-the-record position.

Was guilty verdict indeed unanimous? Fahie wants to know!

Fahie in his letter stated several reasons why the court should consider whether the verdict was indeed unanimous.

“Immediately upon confirming that the jury was back in the jury room by the sound of the closing door, counsel for the defense advised the Court that Juror B looked at both defense had engaged in eye contact with her during or immediately after the polling and facially indicated concern, and that the same juror had done so for a second time moments later when exiting the jury box, with another heightened expression of concern. Defense counsel noted that it appeared that the juror was indicating some issue with some part of the process that had just concluded, but could offer no more than counsel’s impressions,” the letter to the court stated.

The letter also noted that when an issue such as that presently before the Court arises, the Court must determine whether the misconduct occurred and whether it was prejudicial.

Mr Fahie said the defense does not suggest some free-wheeling exchange with Jurors B and C. Rather, the defense proposes that the issue, a decidedly delicate one, should be inquired of individually and in stages. In essence, Jurors B and C should be repolled as to whether the verdicts as published are their verdicts.

Judge Kathleen M. Williams has called this scenario unprecedented and acknowledged her limited options and has since ordered both sides to file motions on the matter by this Thursday, February 15, 2024.

32 Responses to “Fahie writes to court asking for it to determine whether jurors gave ‘their’ verdicts”

  • Puff (14/02/2024, 16:39) Like (44) Dislike (7) Reply
    What kind of nonsense is that
    • small island (15/02/2024, 12:39) Like (15) Dislike (2) Reply
      It seems there is only 1 question to ask. Were the jurors bribed or threatened?
  • nation (14/02/2024, 16:45) Like (31) Dislike (75) Reply
    The verdict csnt be safe if it is coupled with jurors having complained about the length of the trial and also there was a clear indication that discussions were being had which were not to be had. The verdict mightbhave been rushed because some jurors wanted to get out of there and now you have the confusion with these 2 jurors. This is about the man's liberty which he should not be deprived of under questionable circumstances. Declare a mistrial and start again.
    • Foy can get away.. (14/02/2024, 17:36) Like (28) Dislike (3) Reply
      Foy can get off of all these Charges but he will have to take his case to the "PV council". And that's a legal bill of 3 to 4 million dollars...To me he is guilty but they are too many hick ups and mistakes. The "PV council" don't make jokes, everything has to be right and proper according to law, processes and the constitution...
      • grammar (14/02/2024, 18:50) Like (6) Dislike (6) Reply
        Nyron say he have millions he can't pay it all A F had him hide when he on the run one hand wash the next
      • FACE REALITY (14/02/2024, 22:11) Like (27) Dislike (17) Reply
        Those 2 jurors likely paid off to change their tongue. All part of an act.

        From an article:

        “Immediately after the verdict was read in the Miami courtroom, all 12 jurors were polled individually. Each one said Fahie was guilty. But one juror twice made eye contact with Fahie’s attorneys with a look of distress and appeared to pause before saying “yes” to Fahie’s guilt, defense attorney Theresa Van Vliet told the court. Judge Kathleen Williams noted the interaction but took no further action.

        The proceedings ended at 6 p.m. but government and defense attorneys were called back. Two jurors had lagged behind after the others left to tell court staff their minds had not been made up as to Fahie’s guilt in at least one of the four crimes, according to court records.

        One of the now-undecided jurors also tried several times to reach a member of Fahie’s defense team by phone, saying he wanted to know what was happening with the case and didn’t think the jury would ever come to an agreement. The defense attorney advised their conversation was inappropriate and hung up.

        What exactly will happen with the case is unclear. The New York-based legal journal Law360 reported Judge Williams called the situation a “worst-case scenario.” A Florida attorney commenting below the article agreed, saying the judge had very limited good options in such a situation.

        Although on the surface, it might appear the judge’s options could range from doing nothing to declaring a mistrial, long-held rules and Supreme Court rules protect jury decisions from being second-guessed, according to reports filed by both prosecutors and Fahie’s attorneys. A jury’s verdict is supposed to be the end of their final involvement in a trial, after which they are supposed to anonymously return to their regular life.

        The manner of how a verdict is reached, so long as there was no misconduct, is not supposed to be queried, according to court records. And anything jurors say after the verdict is not supposed to reflect on the verdict.

        Fahie’s attorney suggested the court ask the two jurors if the verdict — guilty on all counts — was indeed their verdict.

        Prosecutors warned of attacking the jury, citing a trial rule protecting verdicts — Rule 606 — and precedents where the Supreme Court emphasized the importance of shielding juries from public scrutiny. Losing sides in a trial are not allowed to challenge a verdict by arguing it resulted from compromise, mistake, or carelessness, according to court records.

        “The government maintains that Rule 606 and Eleventh Circuit precedent demand that the jury’s verdict remain respected and undisturbed, whether or not defendant opts to file a motion for a new trial or mistrial based on post-verdict, post-polling, and post-discharge juror statements. There is no “clear, strong, substantial and incontrovertible” evidence or reason to believe that the jury ever considered extraneous prejudicial information, experienced outside influence, made a mistake on the verdict form, or relied on racial stereotypes or animus to convict the defendant,” prosecutors told the court.

        Should the court deem it necessary, any further polling of the jury should be addressed to the foreperson rather than the two complaining jurors, prosecutors said.

        “Should the foreperson respond that the verdict form does not contain any mistakes, the court should end its inquiry and the jury’s verdict must remain respected and undisturbed. Importantly, consistent with Rule 606(b), the government believes the court should refrain from asking the foreperson how the jury arrived at its verdict or whether certain jurors were displeased with the verdict, as this is expressly barred by Eleventh Circuit precedent as inquiry into purely internal matters,” they continued. “The court should also not inquire directly of any other jurors about whether the verdict form contains any mistakes because each juror already, under oath, told the Court that the published verdict was — in fact — their verdict. A juror’s subsequent recantation, dissatisfaction, or anger with the deliberation process or the outcome cannot be the basis for impeaching a verdict.”
      • johnny (15/02/2024, 04:48) Like (26) Dislike (0) Reply
        What’s the PV Council? Do you mean the Privy Council, the highest Appeal Court for us British Overseas Territories? That Court which is located in the UNITED KINGDOM?

        So you are saying the Fahie should take his U.S case to the Privy Council? RIDICULOUS!!!!
      • x (15/02/2024, 09:56) Like (11) Dislike (0) Reply
        The Privy Council has absolutely no power over the United States Justice System.
  • Me (14/02/2024, 16:47) Like (76) Dislike (7) Reply
    This is utter nonsense. What would happen to the justice system if every jury decides to recant their decision in a case after a verdict is given and the jury discharged. This cannot be a precedent as the entire judicial system would be a mockery and unreliable.
  • simple (14/02/2024, 16:47) Like (45) Dislike (0) Reply
    The decision was theirs yes. The recanting was NOT.
  • Fair enough. (14/02/2024, 17:05) Like (25) Dislike (2) Reply
    Lets not forget what were said, or alleged by these 2 Jurors is that they were unanimous on some of the charges not on all the charges... So, this Idea of he is innocent is not so.. I am thinking like Pope, this Lawyer is working to get as much money as she can and she is not doing a good Job. I can not understand why she didn't do her best to get RS as a defense witness. Remember RS defense when got arrested was to have the BVI authority seized the plane and money and arrest the Pilot when they land in tbe BVI,. Why was RS released? She would have being a good defense witness.. Something in this whole delema aint adding up..
    • Tongue Fu (14/02/2024, 21:07) Like (4) Dislike (3) Reply
      @Fair enough

      RS testimony alone without some form of corroboration by BVI Authorities would be useless so I doubt she would be a good witness to present. How could you carry out a sting operation without some cooperation with the Authorities?

      It would be interesting to know what was said on that voicemail that the juror left on the defense attorney's work phone. That could make a difference. We should know more tomorrow. Also are the two jurors in disagreement with the verdicts on all 4 charges?

      I see a mistrial here.
  • The case is over... (14/02/2024, 17:11) Like (38) Dislike (5) Reply
    Nobody had a gun by these two Jurors head forcing them to say guilty when they were asked. This is a hard and tuff one for Fahie.. Lead me to think and ask is the BVI police have an arrest warrant for the Maynards, Fahie and RS for conspiracy to import a control substance. Enough evidence is there for that..
  • jack@$$ (14/02/2024, 18:21) Like (14) Dislike (2) Reply
    Fahie has time to write.
  • jack (14/02/2024, 18:45) Like (4) Dislike (18) Reply
    Free the drew
  • MY VOICE (14/02/2024, 18:53) Like (10) Dislike (0) Reply
    To me, this Andrew Fahie Drama Thing need to make a FULL MOVIE from this.
    Starting from the BVI to Miami, and all the other political stories involved including COI, the arrest of Government Officials, the three previous Governors, Royal Virgin Police Force and whatever occurred from the past (before) to present.

    It should begin from the inauguration of the NDP (National Democratic Party) to present. It should also include when Andrew became the representative of the First District to Premier to his sentencing and whatever follows.

    Name of the Movie: "The BVI Political Affair"
  • FACIAL EXPRESSION (14/02/2024, 19:24) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    IS SAYING )> THESE JOKERS AIN'T KNOW WHO THEY PLAYING WID , AMA TAKE THEM TO SCHOOL ~ CHECK DIS ????
  • …. (14/02/2024, 19:54) Like (4) Dislike (14) Reply
    Release and bring him balo
  • So What? (14/02/2024, 20:38) Like (20) Dislike (0) Reply
    How you mean writing to ask if it was their verdict? He was present and heard every word that was said. Just ask the court reporter what was said. Am sure the Judge ask each juror is this true verdict?
    Did anyone force you to this verdict, plus other questions. Uncle Sam no play with drugs barons. The drue have no business being in this mess. He framed himself because of greed. That lawyer may be trying to creating a situation where she can continue to milk the coach cookie jar.
  • reality (14/02/2024, 20:49) Like (25) Dislike (7) Reply
    Fat Albert needs to man up and accept he made a mistake. He hasn't done that. If he really believes he's innocent, he could have testified on his own behalf. He didn't do that either. It's hard, actually impossible, to respect anyone who acts like this.
    • @reality (15/02/2024, 09:56) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
      This is my taught exactly, Fahie know he is guilty and for him to want to waist the court time and resources is beyond me. I don't have no respect for anymore who can't admit they made a mistake and apologize to the people of the BVI for failing them and his family. And if I were part of the court system on his case, I would give him double the time for not being an honest man as he proclaimed. Cause had it been a real Kartel and not sting, he would be living his best life. And left more Guns/Drugs come in the country cause the more money he have, he would still want more and think he was untouchable. I glad Maynard RAT him out, I would of rat him out to, we in this together to the end. I weren't doing no time while you out there getting Rich. I don't care who don't like my post. BUT HONESTY IS THE BEST. He could of gotten a deal just for pleading guilty and ask for forgiveness.
  • FACIAL EXPRESSION (14/02/2024, 21:27) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Hey looks like you took it personally / you hiding my bloggs again boi / how can wanto kick out tmthe ZHAR if you are afraid of the truth / if you had integrity you would of been there already , but you choose to dtab him in the back for the speaker's job which went to your head and the rest is history ( you still singing like a canary ( free the drew ) he cannot take you to heaven nor can he take
    himself , you ain't nobody without your slavemaster , and he ain't white •¿•
  • Moesha (14/02/2024, 23:40) Like (7) Dislike (13) Reply
    Stop the name calling. You can blog without acting like a child in elementary school calling him fat Albert. His name is Former Premier ANDREW FAHIE. Got it! Remember that man that prophesy that something good was going to happen for Andrew? There was a lot of negative blogs, but you see it came to past. SMH
  • HMMM (15/02/2024, 04:15) Like (12) Dislike (0) Reply
    Even with solid evidence, Foy still won't take accountability?!
    That is disturbing.
  • Toddie (15/02/2024, 05:00) Like (2) Dislike (6) Reply
    Anyone figured out yet that ROXANNE SYLVESTER is Government Official 1?

    Ponder on it!
  • Hotmess (15/02/2024, 08:51) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
    They jokey. This alone can tell you how corrupt Fahie us.
  • Farman (15/02/2024, 14:11) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    I can’t understand how can Fahie wrong and trying to be strong. You should talk your truth and take the plea. You running the country and respond for the wellbeing of people lives and you want to involve in drugs and money laundering you are so damn stupid. Put this man away for the crime so he can serve his time corrupt leaders.
  • I (15/02/2024, 17:41) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    That's just 2 jurors out of 12 which leaves with 10 out of 2 guilty majority rules and as the judge always say that's final, take the jail and hope for a parole, you do the crime, you do the time
  • reality (15/02/2024, 19:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    @Moesha
    I'll fix it for you: Andrew Fahie, convicted felon, drug smuggler and money launderer. Is that better?
  • smh (16/02/2024, 02:26) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    The verdict is in, the jurors accepted it. All he can do now is appeal thru the appellate courts.


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