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Exhume Noel Lloyd body & ‘placed in his park’- Hon Julian Fraser

Speaking at a Special Sitting of the House of Assembly (HoA) on Friday, October 13, 2023, to name 10 national heroes and heroines via a resolution, Third District Representative Hon Julian Fraser RA (R3), made a bold request for the body of Noel Lloyd to be exhumed. Photo: GIS
While honoring the late Lloyd, Hon Fraser called for his body to be exhumed and reburied in the Noel Lloyd Positive Action Movement Park in Road Town, the capital city. Photo: GIS
While honoring the late Lloyd, Hon Fraser called for his body to be exhumed and reburied in the Noel Lloyd Positive Action Movement Park in Road Town, the capital city. Photo: GIS
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI - Speaking at a Special Sitting of the House of Assembly (HoA) on Friday, October 13, 2023, to name 10 national heroes and heroines via a resolution, Third District Representative Hon Julian Fraser RA, made a bold request for the body of Noel Lloyd to be exhumed.

While honoring the late Lloyd, Hon Fraser called for his body to be exhumed and reburied in the Noel Lloyd Positive Action Movement Park in Road Town, the capital city. 

The veteran politician noted that when you travel around the word you see these things, “erect a national monument for Mr. Llyod in his park, exhume his body from wherever it is, and place it in the park,” he opined. 

Hon Fraser said he knows that “there will be pushback on this idea but when you travel you see these things around the word”.  He added, “When you hear in America about Presidential Libraries the bodies of these Presidents are buried right in their Libraries.”

Mr Lloyd was not crazy- Hon Fraser

While making his presentation on the motion, Hon Fraser also noted that some say, “Noel Lloyd was crazy, but he was not, he did what he had to do to stay out of jail.”

He also called on the Government of the day to “form a committee in the HoA to be responsible for national heroes as the district representatives will know best who are our national heroes”,  but this does not mean “the executive will not have a role to play” he stated. 

However,  Mr. Fraser admitted the HoA may not have the capacity to carry out this function. The five-term legislator (1999-current) also mentioned some former French countries in Africa that were colonized and still today, despite their independence, have to pay money to their former slave master France. 

Hon Fraser noted that “no one in the world is talking about this, not even the United Kingdom”, because they can’t talk about it because “they have us here in the BVI colonized”.   

Hon Fraser noted that there are “a lot of forward-thinking people in the Virgin Islands, however, the challenge is to bring them along”.

Today monday, October 16, 2023, is a public holiday in celebration of Heroes & Foreparents Day.

55 Responses to “Exhume Noel Lloyd body & ‘placed in his park’- Hon Julian Fraser”

  • WTF (16/10/2023, 18:08) Like (84) Dislike (10) Reply
    District 3, you all need licks for putting this man back in.
    • @ WTF (16/10/2023, 18:16) Like (6) Dislike (33) Reply
      You could never beat him tho and after him it’s the other Julian ! Smoke that !
    • Ludicrous (16/10/2023, 19:51) Like (29) Dislike (3) Reply
      What body? To add to that…..FOR WHAT?!??!!!

      The spirit and soul already left the body at the moment of death and there is no more body remaining either way.

      Exodus 20:4-5:

      “You must not make any idols. Don't make any statues or pictures of anything up in the sky or of anything on the earth or of anything down in the water. Don't worship or serve idols of any kind, because I, the LORD, am your God.”
    • voter (17/10/2023, 16:37) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
      Sadly - his heart is in the right place but he is not thinking straight..
  • Mr. Gage (16/10/2023, 18:14) Like (66) Dislike (2) Reply
    I disagree, the last thing I want to see when visiting a recreational park is someone's tomb. The statue would suffice.
  • My Take (16/10/2023, 18:20) Like (20) Dislike (14) Reply
    Noel Lloyd was a man before his time. He fought the establishment and the Brits and they made sure they eliminated him by eliminating his mind. These people are wicked and we should not lose sight of how far they will go because they are working with evil ancient spirits. Long live Noel Lloyd. Without him no locals would own land on Wickhams cay as it would have belong to only people from the UK. The more things change the more they remain the same.
  • Harold (16/10/2023, 18:21) Like (42) Dislike (3) Reply
    They will exhume Fraze after a few years as well and place him in the vicinity of Pockwood Pond
  • jack (16/10/2023, 18:25) Like (13) Dislike (1) Reply
    Lord Frazer we need a round table on this one!
  • A million problems (16/10/2023, 18:25) Like (33) Dislike (1) Reply
    And this man wants to spend the time and money to not let the dead rest
  • Really? (16/10/2023, 18:36) Like (40) Dislike (1) Reply
    Next you'll ask for Lavity to go by the college and Ralph by the complex. Stop it.
  • ------------------------------------ (16/10/2023, 18:38) Like (22) Dislike (3) Reply
    Julian is just beyond his time that's all
  • @harold (16/10/2023, 18:56) Like (24) Dislike (0) Reply
    What about if they decide to place him in the middle of the roundabout instead...
  • What a ting. (16/10/2023, 18:58) Like (16) Dislike (0) Reply
    When yuh tink Sowande bad, just know Fraser? Fraser is WUSS! Meh boyy...hmm
  • how? (16/10/2023, 19:00) Like (21) Dislike (0) Reply
    How was this man ever reelected - dear Lord help us with his crazy ideas!
  • Road Town Rebel (16/10/2023, 19:07) Like (16) Dislike (2) Reply
    I disagree with Fraser on this.
  • hog city (16/10/2023, 19:08) Like (5) Dislike (23) Reply
    Fraser for Premier
  • Observer (16/10/2023, 19:11) Like (26) Dislike (0) Reply
    Were the hairdo not enough to convince you he's lost it, now this.
  • Sambo (16/10/2023, 19:20) Like (48) Dislike (1) Reply
    No one studied Noel when he was alive and roaming the streets like a mad man. No one gave him his roses alive. Now the man in the ground and you want to honor him? Sick fools.
    • Sambo (17/10/2023, 07:13) Like (6) Dislike (7) Reply
      Excellent and factual read but it was not written by the original Sambo. From the original Sambo, Noel was a trailblazer, a deep thinker, a warrior, etc who was not afraid to stand alone against the roaring, rising tide of colonialism for Virgin Islanders personal freedom, liberties, interests, etc. He and PAM fought valiantly against the planned apartheid on Wickhams Cay and Anegada. His actions scuttled the one-sided, giveaway, unfair, anti-Virgin Islanders interests Kenneth Bates Hill Wickhams Cay and Anegada agreements, which were engineered by Administrators Martin Stavely, and Ian Thompson, favoring fellow Briton Kenneth Bates. Even the handpicked and assigned CoI commissioner Sir Derick Jakeway find for Kenneth Bates Hill. However, Noel and PAM continued fighting for the rights of Virgin Islanders. Eventually, the FCO intervened with the UK agreeing to loan the BVI approximately $6M to buy out Kenneth Bates Hill contracts , returning both Wickhams and Anegada to its rightful owners—-Virgin Islands people. Where is Noel buried? Where he is resting, I’m not averse to his body being exhumed and placed at the Noel Lloyd Park. It would be symbolic but fitting, for he fought, sacrificed, etc, to retain Wickhams Cay. What is wrong with his bones being laid at a place, which he fought so gallantly and sacrificially to retain for Virgin Islanders. As such, I sides with the Hon Julian Fraser, R-3, aka Liberator on this one.
      • points (17/10/2023, 08:20) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
        Both Sambos made good points.However, Original Sambo positing of concrete information showed definitively why Noel earned his place on the territory’s national Heroes List and why he earns and deserves the honour of being laid in a mausoleum at Noel Lloyd Park on Wickhams Cay. He fought for the right and privilege of that happening. Were it not for his persistent effort Virgin Islanders would only be able to go to Wickhams Cay as hewers of wood and carriers of water.
        • @Points (17/10/2023, 09:12) Like (1) Dislike (5) Reply
          @Points, why everything has to be about race. Heroes and Foreparents Day is a solemn occasion so let’s take a holiday from the racial issues nah. Slavery was long ago and none of us today have experienced slavery.
          • points (17/10/2023, 20:50) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
            To @ Points, the BVI did not create a racial environment, for racial discrimination and racism was forced upon it by slavery and colonialism. Racism did not create Slavery but racism evolved from it. One of the most important social construct of colonialism is racism. What is a social construct?

            A social construct is a definitely defined policy, idea, developed by a group with power, influence, etc control another group with no or little power. Social construct sets the relationship between groups. Colonialism is an extractive, exploited, exclusionary, violent, brutal, dehumanizing, special entitlements and privileges -driven, racial superiority, etc institution.
            • RealPol (18/10/2023, 08:55) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
              To Points, this is deep and profound. We may avoid the reality of the current situation but we cannot avoid the reality of the BVI bloodbless reconquering and recolonization. BVI population disunity, quietness, their altruism to the interests of colonialists are being exploited to their detriment. The BVI just anointed 10 national heroes who were not selected because they behaved as Sambo lambs. Their actions as others have noted was exemplary standing and fighting sometimes alone against the rising tide/crest of slavery and colonialism, fighting for the blessings of liberty, freedom and democracy ; economic, social and political advancements for the BVI people. They charted the blueprint the way forward.
            • @Points (18/10/2023, 09:15) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
              @Points, you are being unfair about the colonialism institution and racism. Colonialism was a civilizing mission, exposing and introducing the Americas, Africa, Far East, etc., to modernity. In addition, it introduced the people to education, healthcare, democracy, built infrastructure, utilities, political governance, ie, the Westminister is the governing model in many former colonies. Colonialism is not perfect but it has done some good, did it not?
              • @@Points (18/10/2023, 11:01) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
                @@Points, please stop the deliberate misinformation, and disinformation. You are trying to revise history,ie, trying to create the impression that slavery and colonialism was not so bad and had intrinsic value. Furthermore, pretending and hoping that the atrocities, dehumanization, abuse, rape, etc didn’t happen or it was long ago, it’s water under the bridge, etc and we should just move on as if nothing happened.
          • Eldread (20/10/2023, 20:01) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
            @points
            Eh! Em!, you can tell you have the blue eye white Jesus in you" no racial issues nah" that religion create a benign atmosphere that make you accept your fate as children of a lesser god, all white countries you travel their statue of their murdering ancestors is there. Like in BVI even the sea water is racist, to be called "sir Francis drake channel " I guess you the church minded don't think it's racist but god named it so. Only black people dismiss themselves from the future to remain where slavery left us kissing their butt and deify the white race by not even touching the wrongs of Caucasian,or else it's racist, who taught you that word and gave you guilty feelings, the white people are cold in conscience about keeping you in your place.
      • Contrarian (17/10/2023, 09:08) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
        To Sambo, seems as if there some close similarities between Sir Derek Jakeway (1971) and Sir Gary Hickinbottom (2021) CoIs). They both biasely sided with fellow Britons who commissioned them. They were not fair and balanced. For example, the Wickhams Cay agreement and Anegada agreement were for 199 years, paying government a measly $30,000 per annum. All material and equipment, etc would have been brought in duty free, etc. Anegadians would have been pushed to a little rocky corner of their homeland. Lavity Stoutt was on board with the agreement initially but turned after Noel Lloyd and PAM’s action. Keeping it real. Totally agree, Noel earned his spot on the Heroes list. Word on the street is that some people didn’t support Dolph Faulkner in his initial protest. They stayed hiding in the shadows and came out in the light after he was not arrested. Keeping it real. Don’t trust me talk to people in the greatest generation or silent generation who is still with us. This will bring shade but I got broad shoulders. But we must tell the good, the bad and ugly.
      • Eldread (20/10/2023, 19:48) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        @sambo
        As usual the white man Bates won that round of wickhams cay fight, since as always during slavery when the lose human beings like us they consider it a lost of property, like we were a shovel a wheel barrow or wrench, so they were compensated according to the white supremacists doctrine , so who pay back that loan that paid Bates? Me and you. We should ask the British financiers who was exploiting that situation of noel Lloyd to gain riches to re emburst it to our treasury now with interest, just like some moomoo African leaders taking all it tax dollar to France treasury from since their independence in the 50's , we did the same and paid Bates for what our ancestors bled blood sweat and tears for. The land of ours, and trust me Columbus kill the Africans that was here before and gave them names like arawak and caribs because it must not be known that we were civilize before them in sailing the world when they thought it was flat.
    • @Sambo (17/10/2023, 10:38) Like (0) Dislike (1) Reply
      When did you recalled Mr. Lloyd roaming the streets as a mad man? Stop spewing ignorance and defaming the man. It's the People who were in the Administration at the time blocked all efforts of helping Mr. LLOYD and because he had more sense than them, and thus they felt threatened and declared him to be crazy. Even the one who now says she was part of P.A.M
      ( which is a blatant lie) didn't render any assistance or assurance to Mr. Lloyd. So people like you Sambo needs to stop spewing nonsense. Do research thoroughly before typing.
      • Sambo (Orig) (17/10/2023, 11:20) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
        To @Sambo, for the record, Sambo(Orig) never disrespected national hero Noel Lloyd by referring to him as a mad man roaming the streets of Road Town. Instead, I saw Noel Lloyd as a bold trailblazer, deep thinker., patriot, warrior with a cause, ie fighting for the freedom, liberties, economic, social and political interest, etc., of the VI people. It is sad that he did not get the deserving accolades when was alive so that he could relish in and enjoy them. We must change that mindset, ie, waiting until one passes to recognize them; give them their flowers while they are alive to enjoy.
      • Sambo (17/10/2023, 12:39) Like (4) Dislike (0) Reply
        @@Sambo. What do you mean?!?! Everyone who is a Virgin Islander and lived in the country in the 90s and 2000s remember Noel right there by Scatos by that old building all day. Then up and down town aimlessly all day and night. Destitute like no one cared for him. Many morning you used to see him there sleeping as though he had no home. So unsure if you know Noel or if your research was poor. The Government was not studying him then. They had wash their hands off of him and left him to the wild so to speak. What an honor it would have been to honor him while he was alive.
  • Hmmmm (16/10/2023, 19:21) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    Monument is fine normal.Bury the man there?The place I's depressing enough with Sonnel stalking PPL and other wierdos ..it's not a cemetery..bury him on that land Coi say you waste money on.
  • @ my take (16/10/2023, 19:25) Like (0) Dislike (8) Reply
    Ever notice that there are always more dislikes whenever positive statements are made about the Virgin Islands. The sad part is that more often than not they come from Virgin Islanders.
  • Don’t want hear ayo (16/10/2023, 19:45) Like (8) Dislike (1) Reply
    Remember as a lad going high school, he use to be infront by the gate with his cow head if I can recall ppl use to ignore this man. As he was dying your government put a pin on him. Death before dishonor.
  • rip (16/10/2023, 19:46) Like (5) Dislike (0) Reply
    Only now you'll respect him
  • round rock (16/10/2023, 20:05) Like (6) Dislike (7) Reply
    He who lives and forget the past are bound to repeat the same. I am extremely sorry for those persons who are disrespecting Hon. Julian Fraser because of his suggestion. Well, for those persons I am sorry for the low level of respect for one of the longest serving Legislator in the Territory. Hon. Fraser has a very good suggestion. Will the government commit itself to fund such a venture is another question. What Hon. Fraser was highlighting is the tremendous effort of Noel Lloyd to ensure that our lands did not went into the hands of a white racist. What Noel Lloyd did for this country, no other Virgin Islander has ever done and will never do. Because of Noel travels in Africa and saw what the whites did to the blacks and are doing still, he took a stand, and we have Wickam's Cay and Anegada in the hands of locals. He stood up against the mighty British government and its army and fought for this country to ensure that we do not have a South Africa Apartheid system here. In Jamica there is a place for National Heroes and coincidently today is a public holiday for Heroes Day. Long live the memory of Noel Llloyd.
  • THE EMPEROR OF THE 3RD (16/10/2023, 21:01) Like (5) Dislike (3) Reply
    LOOKS LIKE HE TRIPPING ( TRYING TO BE RELAVANT AGAIN ? ) WERE WERE ALL THESE PRETENDERS WHEN THE GENTLEMAN NEEDED HELP ? AND SOME OF THEM EVEN CALLED HIM CRAZY , AND NOW PLAYING HOLY / DUDE YOU NEED TO GO BACK INTO WOODWORKS AND LET A REAL GENUINE DECENT HUMAN BEING , OF WHICH HE WAS , REST IN PEACE / OR TAKE A SWIM BACK TO AFRICA
  • Hmmmm (16/10/2023, 22:44) Like (2) Dislike (0) Reply
    This whole thing is a hot mess..which is so gay..ironic
  • vi (17/10/2023, 01:02) Like (2) Dislike (1) Reply
    I like the idea, but let me recommend that you cover the cost.
  • 2023 (17/10/2023, 02:03) Like (6) Dislike (0) Reply
    the member was in politics long enough and did nothing to celebrate the goodness of Noel for the development of our people

    the member also had the opportunity to form a government and did nothing

  • Cha (17/10/2023, 06:26) Like (5) Dislike (1) Reply
    Hon Fraser, whatever you smoking, you need to stop and check into rehab.
  • PT09 (17/10/2023, 08:06) Like (0) Dislike (3) Reply
    @Sambo you are just as $tup1d as Julian Fraser.
    • @PT09 (18/10/2023, 11:07) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      @PT09, arguing with a fool, means there are now 2 fools, so I’m out.
  • smh (17/10/2023, 10:33) Like (6) Dislike (1) Reply
    Them man need bury Frazer by the water plant SCB
  • faith (17/10/2023, 11:05) Like (1) Dislike (2) Reply
    As H. Lavity Stoutt would say: "Bunkum". His family would never agree to this nonsense of an idea. Let the bones of the deceased rest in peace. What is this man trying to prove with his folly?
  • Heritage and Sindee (17/10/2023, 13:41) Like (0) Dislike (2) Reply
    Fraser don't mind these 2 outcasts on radio.....One is a dope smoker and the other is crazy as a bat. TALK THAT!
  • lol (17/10/2023, 15:02) Like (1) Dislike (0) Reply
    Oh what can I say....Uncle Julian, you special bwoi.
  • UTTER RUBBISH (18/10/2023, 22:16) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Fraser whatever you smoking put it down please. Leave that dead man body just where it is. I convinced some ah you crazy in ahyo backside.
  • lisa (19/10/2023, 22:39) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why not make a monument of Mr. Lloyd and put it in his park with a plaque surrounded by flowers.

    "The evil that men do lives after them, but the good is often forgotton with their bones".


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