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2nd District representative hinting court challenge?

“Ask them where they were domiciled in March 2010” - Christopher
2nd District representative J. Alvin Christopher asked that persons question Cline where he was domiciled in March 2010. A person is required to be domiciled in the VI for three years before being eligible to run for political office.
The eligibility of Claude Skelton Cline, NDP's 2nd District has been at the forefront for months, following his announcement to run for office and his recent return to the VI.
The eligibility of Claude Skelton Cline, NDP's 2nd District has been at the forefront for months, following his announcement to run for office and his recent return to the VI.
ROAD TOWN, Tortola, VI – With some 43 candidates nominated and on the list for the 2011 General Elections, including candidates whose eligibility have been questioned, the controversy continues with what seems to be a hint of legal action to follow.

At a Virgin Islands Party (VIP) meeting in the 2nd District at Meyers at Rudy’s Bar last evening October 24, 2011, 2nd District representative J. Alvin Christopher asked residents to question a particular candidate where he was domiciled in March 2010, stating that persons should not swear that they are qualified to run for office when they know that they are not.

While being careful not to disclose any names, the candidate in question, based on the context of the controversy is 2nd district candidate running under the National Democratic Party (NDP) ticket Claude Skelton Cline.

While Cline is a native Virgin Islander, he has resided in the United States for many years and has recently returned to the Virgin Islands. However, the number of years since his actual return continues to be a controversial issue. The 2007 Constitution requires that a person has to be living in the VI three years before he or she can be eligible to hold office.

“… those same persons who have signed their name today and tell you that they are qualified to speak and sit in the House of Assembly in the next sitting. Ask them where they were domiciled in March of 2010, ask them when they put their name on the voter’s list, affirming that they are now domiciled in the BVI and when they give you those answers,” said Christopher, charging that there are people who returned to the Territory “a year ago and go on radio and national television and call down our people who made a lot of contribution”.

He was at the time speaking of Cline’s criticism of the VIP’s 8th District candidate and Deputy Premier of the Virgin Islands, Dancia Penn QC.

The 2nd district representative further stated that, “you don’t need your 10 fingers just use one hand but don’t cut your figures because you might need half or quarter of a finger because the numbers cannot add up. But they will tell you they are qualified to sit in the House of Assembly. You cannot afford ladies and gentlemen to be deceived by anyone who do not meet the requirements of our Constitution to sit in the House of Assembly”.

Christopher said such actions are “a deception, it’s deceitful, and we should not do that. We should not swear that we are qualified when we know that we are not qualified.”

According to Christopher, domicile in a dictionary has a specific meaning. Speaking about the particular candidate, he further said, “When I sit in the House of Assembly, if I sit there knowing that I am not qualified to sit in the House, which means I sit there illegally how can the laws then that I make be legal to govern you the people of these islands”.

He urged residents that they must put “things in the right prospective” and while not directly calling for a court challenge to Cline’s nomination, he said, “I do believe that those legislation can easily be interpreted by the court because one can’t produce evidence of where one is fixed or means where you are domiciled at a particular time, so come today nomination day, we are signed on to some documents saying that we are qualified, now it is for any voter in this territory to check our record and to make sure that we meet those requirements”.

As of 6 p.m. last evening October 24, 2011, no legal challenge was mounted against any candidate.

34 Responses to “2nd District representative hinting court challenge? ”

  • vip loyalist (25/10/2011, 08:05) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    apply more pressure and keep the heat on chris
    • loyal to GOD no man (26/10/2011, 11:56) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      list three things he (Christopher) did for the past 4 years for his DISTRICT (major) things plz i want to kno.
    • billyb (26/10/2011, 15:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      thanks ffor that comment vip loyalist, he IS keeping the heat on Chris. That is why Chris running scared, lol
  • Senior Pastor (25/10/2011, 08:40) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Senior Pastor all these years...... but living in the BVI??? http://www.detroitgospel.com/E-Blasts/PrevailingMinistriesBrianCarn.html http://www.focusvi.com/release.php?act=view_release_desc&release_id=378 http://www.sknvibes.com/news/newsdetails.cfm/6580
    • Big Brother (25/10/2011, 09:19) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      WOW!!!!! Two out of these 3 are local news releases and nobody remembers them? 2008 & 2009
    • Cox Heath (25/10/2011, 21:31) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      JACK A$$$!! The Constitution NEVER said anything about 'living' in the BVI! It speaks about DOMICILE!!!!!!! Why do you think people can fly in from the States, USVI or anywhere else and still vote? LOL!!! Sorry to burst your bubble but the Constitution makes it quite clear that a person must be 'domiciled' in the BVI, not physically living here! We do realize that these things are out of most VIP supporters' reach but I would pay money to see the look on Alvin's face when Claude wins and his appointed Lawyer has to tell him he has no case against Claude! LOL!! If you got o Jamaica to study Law or Medicine and you're gone for 7yrs, are you domiciled in Jamaica for those seven years? NO! BVI is your home, place of origin and you have intentions to return to your home, so it remains your place of domicile! Read a book and stop trying to stir up confusion! Education is good for the body!!!
    • Strupes (26/10/2011, 06:41) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Then the articles shoulda said Pastro Cline of the BVI, not of Detroit. Fact is he was domiciled in Detriot at the time because he hailed from Detriot at the time, and has not been domiciled in the BVI for 3 or more years. That's the point. The articles said so, and I guess that will be an error now when article after article he was representing Detriot not the BVI.
    • Evaluation (26/10/2011, 06:52) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      What Does Domicile Mean? The location where an individual, partnership, or corporation establishes permanent residence as per legal obligations. Domicile is also explained this way "In order to file taxes, collect insurance, or create a company, firms and individuals must have a recognized place of residence under law." We want to know where he was paying his taxes, who set up them things he had in America because he had to domiciled to do so. For the benefit of the new constitution, the fact remains that the person must have been living here for 3 or more years. Story finish. If he get through, you all bet we have some domiciled in America and St. thomas/St. John who can whip some behinds in here. You all need to look at how this is handled. He does not quality. I so want somebody challenge this. Anybody. Open the worms
  • foxy (25/10/2011, 09:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Chris you can only do the court thing after the election if the devil pastor wins..but he will not so not to worry Chris, save your $$$$$ to help the people!
    • top dog (25/10/2011, 10:30) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      HUSH youe behind..u can call anybody devil..u damn demon!
    • Observer (25/10/2011, 10:54) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      You need to remember that Claude is a man of god and you and all the other naysayers need to be careful how you speak about the man of God!! When you see things happening to you remember how you call down the man of god.
      • 2nd (25/10/2011, 14:09) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        he is not a man of god and nothing he do will prosper we rebuke he but he ain't come back to take over nothing where were he when the country was building up america looking for milk and honey in the sky u ain't going to live big off of the poor people go find a government job
      • Amen To Dat (25/10/2011, 15:57) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
        The man of God also needs to remember he is a man of God and behave like a man of God. God do not promote the kind of gutter behavior he politricking with. Calling people names and disrespecting women. He is a bull in a china shop.
  • Hmmmmm! (25/10/2011, 09:20) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Christopher, I agree with you its about principle, from the look of it the future of BVI is very much at stake. Too many of these candidates are "morally challenged" and are far far far from "sober minded". When you have candidates call themselves Pastors and making deprecating and unfounded statements about academically qualified professionals, I cant help but wonder what they would do and say to the uneducated citizen, and in particular if there are no witnesses.
  • True (25/10/2011, 10:18) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    To be resident here "domicile" you need only reside here for 6 months of the year. Fahie brought the man in so VIP needs to look to itself for the upset that might or will happen in the 2nd
  • True (25/10/2011, 10:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    on another note>>>>> Preston Stoutt is having a Fish Fry at 3 nights to meet the candidate. As far as i'm aware thats against the constitution as no food or drink can be served at rallies due to bribery even on the smallest level being applied, i.e dinner for a vote! Correct me please if i'm wrong.
    • I tell U! (25/10/2011, 12:49) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      It hard to believe that Lavity reach to this!
    • Patriot (25/10/2011, 15:37) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      Stoutt never state that the fried fish will be free.
    • Zion Hill (25/10/2011, 19:34) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      "TRUE", you are correct in your statement. Those feast that were done donkey years ago are no more permitted, BUT -- nothing wrong with organizing a fish fry, sell eats and drinks and put up a program. Fish Frys in Capoons Bay were the biggest tourist attraction when his cousin Melcina Smith did them 20-30 years and more ago.
  • bobby (25/10/2011, 10:45) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    NDP... New Demon Party and pastor cline, the biggest demon of them all.
  • Jost van Dyke (25/10/2011, 11:01) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    but cline knows he cannot run therefore he is not to be trusted...i can never vote for he never
    • Well sah (25/10/2011, 12:31) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      The couple votes I saw for Cline was out of JVD and not even JVD planning on voting for he.
  • gee (25/10/2011, 12:08) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    is dual citizenship an issue?
  • Christopher Please! (25/10/2011, 12:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Why are you so scared? Far too long, you have been in the 2nd District Not doing anything. You should have inelgible to run. So now you are questioning Claude's eligibility. You just don't want competition. Claude returned home in 2008 and may have travelled back and forth. He still had a family in Detroit to take care of. How stupid of you to question this man's eligiblity. Keep running scared. The court will decide. We will meet you there. Don't start a revolution.
  • small head (25/10/2011, 12:42) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Man avlin stop the blah blah blah and tek dey bouy to court
  • No Vision (25/10/2011, 12:43) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Mr. Christopher while you are spending time wanting to challenge Mr. Cline, You still have not share what you have done the past four years or that your vision is for the future because you have none. The people will not return you to office.
  • K (25/10/2011, 12:59) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Seems like Alvin Christopher scared. What Alvin harassing himself for with Claude. I guess he done figure that he will get his behind cut.
    • Tell Me (25/10/2011, 19:28) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
      If Claude Skelton Cline has been paying tax and social security in the BVI for the past three years then that will hold in any court; he is safe. On the other hand J. Alvin Christopher should be trying to convince the people of the 2nd district to re-elect him to represent for the next four years. So far he has said more about Claude Skelton Cline's personal life than what he has done/will do for the people of the 2nd district........Nonsense.
  • Ambitious (25/10/2011, 14:40) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    When it is said that some of us are not versed, I totally agree. But then the mindset of people who has no exposure and can't see beyond their toenail will think this way, along with the person who keeps talking about it. The ignorance is so bliss I feel empathy for our people. Ever read the book Makes Me Wanna Holler, well I want to holler for our people who don't have the capacity to think and analyze, and the issue that is causing query is not even an issue you have to think about.
  • Clarity please (25/10/2011, 19:04) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    In law, domicile is the status or attribution of being a permanent resident in a particular jurisdiction. A person can remain domiciled in a jurisdiction even after they have left it, if they have maintained sufficient links with that jurisdiction or have not displayed an intention to leave permanently. I believe Mr. christopher is looking at being physically present for three years. Is the requiement to be domiciled or physically present. I would appreciate some clarity on this.
  • Quiet Storm (25/10/2011, 21:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    The qualification say domiciled, not physically present. Regardless, he is a son of the soil; beat him on the merit not lame technicalities. Even if he came back home the morning of October 24 and want to run let the people decide. If one is beaten by a candidate who has been back for a day that says a lot. Man-up and give the man some blows on the issues.
  • shark (26/10/2011, 03:06) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    All these politicians are sickening,we have major issues here that are affecting each and everyone of us and now they can fine this time to slander their own. Ironically and the end of the day what have you accomplished.At the end of the day what makes them think that they are qualified to sit in The House of assembly.how many of These politicians have a degree in Political science.What are the necessary qualifications needed. every four years its the same dilemma. I'm either seeking what i can get for my own personal interest and what I can get out of the government,well show me a politician that have the interest of this Country,the well being of the Citizens Of the British Virgin Islands.
  • Music (26/10/2011, 12:21) Like (0) Dislike (0) Reply
    Residence and domicile are not the same thing, and the wrong definition may have been used in the legislation. Domicile is usually obtained from one's father, and its extremely difficult to give up. You have to completely remove yourself from your origin, no property, no bank accounts etc etc, in order to say that you are no longer domiciled in your origin. You also have to demonstrate you intention to become domiciled in another country. Your place of domicile will be after you for taxes, unless you can establish "non-residence" for tax purposes.


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